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Discussion in 'The Steelers Fans Fantasy Football' started by Ray D, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    It will be a 12 team league using NFL.com's FF site. Live draft is scheduled for Labor Day at 1230 EST.

    The scoring rules are fairly close to most standard leagues I've played in, as is the roster. (1 QB, 1RB, 2 WRs, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1K, 1 Team D) but with a small bench (6 players).

    For those wanting to join this league, shoot me a PM and I'll send you the info. I also need a volunteer to be a commish for a second (and 3rd may be needed) league with the same settings but different draft day or time as needed. I'll start up that league if necessary, but name the commish and drop as soon as needed. (or they can create it if they prefer)

    If you have questions, concerns, suggestions, NOW is the time to speak up.

    When joining a league, I do ask that you name your team after your user name here so we know who you are. IOWs, have your user name somewhere in the team name.

    I don't think I'll be doing a salary cap league after all. I don't see one for NFL.com that can be customized and private.
     
  2. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    I sent PMs to a couple of you already who PMed me. If you tried to message me on 8/5, and I didn't respond as of 8/6, please try again as I may have missed it.

    Anyone who CANNOT draft on Labor Day at 1230 pm EST, please post in this thread your preference. Based on the initial thread, I think we have enough players interested for 2 leagues minimum, possibly 3. I have another commish waiting in the wings for the word "go." :)
     
  3. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

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    I can't do labor day for the draft, so I'll wait for another league if there's going to be one... If not, oh well.
     
  4. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Don't worry, Steel. We'll get another league going as well, maybe 2 more if needed.

    What day or time(s) is good for you?
     
  5. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I am OK for Labor Day, as long as it ends no later than around 10 PM Eastern. How are you planning to do the live draft? Via an online "chat" type of service, or right here on the MB?
     
  6. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Those on-line drafts usually end quickly. Even with 12 teams, I've never seen them go more than 45 minutes. Most are usually over in under 30 minutes. The website hosts it. You only have (I think) 90 secs per pick. And if someone doesn't show up, the computer starts picking for him automatically after the first round. You can rank your "wishlist" picks ahead of time just in case that happens.
     
  7. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

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    I prefer evenings during the week, but if that doesnt work for others thats ok... Ill get in if I can, and if I cant oh well.
     
  8. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    For any of your next leagues, is it possible to have more starting players, such as 2 RB's, 3 WR's + 1 flex? Or at the very least 2 RB's, 2 WR's, 1 flex. Everything else looks great.

    1 RB will make it too easy, even with the flex player.
     
  9. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

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    Didnt realize it was like this but I'll second that. I think 2 RB/2WR and 1 Flex works well.
     
  10. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    It's possible for even the first league. I can change any setting until the draft happens.

    I avoid 2 RBs anymore due to the nature of the game lately. Would 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 flex be acceptable?
     
  11. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

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    Ive never heard of a 1 RB league. I agree that the game has changed makes it tougher but that's part of the fun.
     
  12. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    I've seen almost every setup. Still play in one 2 RB league, and it's a mess usually. LOL Not as bad as 2 QB leagues, but, idk, just odd I guess. The past few seasons, there's really only 4, 5 good RBs at BEST, and the rest are mostly fodder.

    But I see your point.

    If people want 2 RBs, I'll put it in. Let's hear your opinions.

    While I'm asking for input, I have the bench set at only 6 players. The reason for this is based on previous on-line leagues over the years. It prevents (or at least modifies) hoarding and forces hard decisions. In a heavily moderated league (every move goes through the commish), that might not be necessary, but on-line leagues by nature tend to be more unguarded. Anybody have or see a problem with this?

    Also, I set the scoring up similar to 2 money leagues I play in. The defense scoring is a little higher than standard leagues, but it's a double edged system. It can hurt you too. Those leagues set it up like that so defenses actually matter. Review them and post any criticism, concerns, etc.

    Passing Yards:
    1 point per 25 yards

    Passing Touchdowns:
    6 points

    Interceptions Thrown:
    -2 points

    400+ Passing Yards Bonus:
    5 points

    50+ Passing Yards TD Bonus:
    3 points

    Rushing Yards:
    1 point per 10 yards

    Rushing Touchdowns:
    6 points

    40+ Rushing Yard TD Bonus:
    3 points

    200+ Rushing Yards Bonus:
    5 points

    Receptions:
    1 point

    Receiving Yards:
    1 point per 10 yards

    Receiving Touchdowns:
    6 points

    50+ Receiving Yard TD Bonus:
    3 points

    200+ Receiving Yards Bonus:
    5 points

    Fumble Recovered for TD:
    6 points

    Fumbles Lost:
    -2 points

    2-Point Conversions:
    2 points

    Kicking

    PAT Made:
    1 point

    PAT Missed:
    -2 points

    FG Made 0-19:
    3 points

    FG Made 20-29:
    3 points

    FG Made 30-39:
    3 points

    FG Made 40-49:
    4 points

    FG Made 50+:
    5 points

    FG Missed 0-19:
    -3 points

    FG Missed 20-29:
    -2 points

    FG Missed 30-39:
    -1 point

    Defense / Special Teams

    Sacks:
    2 points

    Interceptions:
    2 points

    Fumbles Recovered:
    2 points

    Fumbles Forced:
    1 point

    Safeties:
    2 points

    Touchdowns:
    9 points

    Blocked Kicks:
    3 points

    Kickoff and Punt Return Yards:
    1 point per 15 yards

    Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns:
    6 points

    Points Allowed 0:
    10 points

    Points Allowed 1-6:
    7 points

    Points Allowed 7-13:
    4 points

    Points Allowed 14-20:
    1 point

    Points Allowed 21-27:
    0 points

    Points Allowed 28-34:
    -1 point

    Points Allowed 35+:
    -4 points

    Less than 100 Total Yards Allowed:
    10 points

    100-199 Yards Allowed:
    7 points

    200-299 Yards Allowed:
    3 points

    400-449 Yards Allowed:
    -3 points

    450-499 Yards Allowed:
    -5 points

    500+ Yards Allowed:
    -7 points

    Other

    Use Fractional Pts
    Yes

    Use Negative Pts
    Yes
     
  13. shaner82

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    I like 2RB, 2 WR, 1 flex. Yes, it will make it tricky with the state of the game, but that's half the battle. 1 RB is far too easy and it devalues the position and the draft.

    I personally hate, hate, hate bonus points for anything. A player is already rewarded with a 60 yard TD catch by getting 6 points for the yards and 6 points for the TD. I think 1 catch for 60 yards or 6 catches for 60 yards should result in the same number of points. The result is the exact same. Just my opinion.

    I also dislike negative points for missed FG's and here's why. At the end of a half or game, a team may attempt a ridiculously long and almost impossible FG simply because they don't have time to do anything else. The kicker often has no chance in that scenario and it's just pure bad luck for the owner of that kicker. It has nothing to do with a kickers accuracy and has to do with a kicker being out there to kick an impossible kick.

    Everything else looks good.
     
  14. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    I agree to a point. But the negative points for FGs come on (mostly) chip shots. Anything over 40 yards doesn't get negative points.
     
  15. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    So what you're saying is that I should read more carefully before commenting next time? :lolol:

    Still strongly dislike bonuses. I think it makes certain players more valuable than they should be, and takes away from guys such as Welker and other slot receivers, since they rarely ever go deep. With long TD and long reception bonuses, a guy like Mike Wallace could potentially be the #1 fantasy WR, when he has no business being above guys like Calvin and Larry. Just my opinion.

    With all that said, if you decide to do a 2 RB league, count me in. I find 1 RB too boring because everyone will end up with similar numbers from their one guy.
     
  16. pjgruden

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    I'm good with whatever way you decide
    . I will agree 1 RB seems a little light, but it's ultimately your decision
     
  17. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Just what I'm used to, I'm not married to any of it. Which bonuses do you not like? Just the long play ones? Or all of them (such as bonuses for going over 200 yards rushing)?

    2 RBs it will be. I'm surprised how many are used to that. I haven't seen it since the 90s. :) But it will make it interesting for sure. That said, if I add a RB to the starting roster, I'm going to have to add another bench slot I think. Maybe not. What say you?
     
  18. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    As far as running backs I am used to having two but you would be surprised how little they affect scoring especially in recent years. I can remember as recently as four years ago when everyone right out of the gate took LT and the run on RB's started with the first pick. When it came to me I saw Peyton Manning sitting there and I had to take him. My stable of RB's last year maybe on a good week got me 15 points last season.

    How are you planning on doing punt returns/kickoff returns? Do they go to the individual player of defense/special teams? I got a win stolen out from under me last year because the guy I was playing made a last minute substitution of his back up defense and they got a punt return for a TD that put them over the top of course that was on Tuesday morning when they posted the final results.
     
  19. shaner82

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    Just what I'm used to, I'm not married to any of it. Which bonuses do you not like? Just the long play ones? Or all of them (such as bonuses for going over 200 yards rushing)?

    2 RBs it will be. I'm surprised how many are used to that. I haven't seen it since the 90s. :) But it will make it interesting for sure. That said, if I add a RB to the starting roster, I'm going to have to add another bench slot I think. Maybe not. What say you?[/quote:377umw8i]

    You wouldn't necessarily need another bench spot. That's totally up to you whether you want to add more bench spots or not.
    I personally don't like any bonuses at all as it creates a big difference between a RB getting 199 yards and 200 yards (for example), or a QB throwing for 399 yards and 400 yards. Bonuses make a huge difference out of 1 yard. Again, that's just my opinion and people may disagree with me.

    If this is a 2 RB league, sign me up, I'm in 100%. This will be fun.
     
  20. bnasty23

    bnasty23 Well-Known Member

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    I can be there for the draft on labor day and I just shot you an email asking for the information. Man am I geared up for the season and this league.
     
  21. Ray D

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    A few quick updates:

    After much thought, and talking with the guys who run my money leagues, I've decided to forgo bonuses for offensive players for this league. Shaner made good points, and the GMs of my money leagues all agree that bonuses are... less than ideal. They only use them because the people in the leagues all wanted them. A second RB slot has been added. Bench size is staying the same. Should make people use strategy a bit more, but that just keeps things interesting.

    I have started a second league for those who cannot do Labor Day for a draft (or maybe missed a slot in the first league). The tentative draft date for that league is Sunday, August 26th at 6 pm. That date and time can be changed if needed. If people are cool with it, it stays.

    The settings for that league will be identical as the first league. I do not intend to stay in the second league. I'll drop as soon as I place a commish in charge of it. That is, unless it fails to fill up with new players. If it does, I'll allow some guys in the first league to also join the second if they wish (and I may stay in it). Based on initial response a few weeks ago, this shouldn't be an issue, but I'm just covering my bases.

    I have a slot or 2 still available for the first league (labor day league). As always, please PM me with an invite request. But now, also state your preference for which league. Once the Labor Day league fills, you'll have to join the second league. For those in the first league who are interested in joining the second league ALSO (assuming we need to fill it), PM me as well, but state that you're already in the first league. I'll hold those requests in reserve.
     
  22. shaner82

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    One more suggestion Ray. If you use decimal scoring, then you likely won't have to worry about ties happening, which is nice. There's nothing worse than a tie. It's also frustrating when my whole team ends up with 39 yards but my players only get 3 points out of it, whereas my opponents players all got 31 yards and his players also got 3 points out of it. With decimal scoring, 39 yards results in 3.9 points.

    Joined league 1. Can't wait. I now have a fantasy draft on Sept 1, 2nd, and 3rd.
     
  23. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    AFAIK, I am using decimal scoring. I always have. But now I have to check and make certain. :)
     
  24. Lizard72

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    Hell yes!!
     
  25. ST-ILL-ERS FAN

    ST-ILL-ERS FAN Well-Known Member

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    Anybody in first league want to switch with me in second league (8 teams)??? PM me if you can. Probably by the time any of you see this it will be too late anyway.
     

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