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Goodbye cobi

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    Demarcus ayers said in camp that whichever receivers don't make the final 53 will definitely land on another NFL roster somewhere....
    First ayers himself signs with the evil empire in n.e. and now just in:

    Cobi hamilton has been snatched from our practice squad to catch passes from dashaun watson in houston......
    Thank you cobi for your hard work and good luck
     
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  2. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Good luck to him. I don't think he had a chance of climbing our depth chart, but he did a good job in the main (minus the play off drops, obviously).
     
  3. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    And we have DHB who can't catch a cold.
     
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  4. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    hate to see him go. i liked cobi. he was limited in what he did but he also did some things well. :cool:
     
  5. Ben There

    Ben There Well-Known Member

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    Good Luck Cobi! We really enjoyed talking to you at Training Camp!
     
  6. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    I know DHB has ST value but come on man I am sure there is someone on this roster who could have taken his spot on ST while at least holding onto one of Ayers or Cobi. JMO
     
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  7. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    Cobi Hamilton is just another guy.

    DHB brings ST value. We have enough options to catch the ball. Our #5 WR doesn't have to be another one.

    I think people can see since preseason, there seems to be a renewed interest in having a great ST unit. That unit has been ignored essentially since Tomlin got here.

    We are off to a good start.
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Cobi wasn't on the PS was he?

    Thought he was just cut.
     
  9. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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  10. SDOT

    SDOT Well-Known Member

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    How quickly people forget...





    He has more too. Cobi and Ayers do not have that ability and not to mention ST value. JuJu should have been put on IR and we should have kept Cobi or Ayers.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You don't get to pimp his WR skills when he has 30 receptions for 461 yards and 4 TDs in 3 years. Nope.

    If people want to make an argument for his ST play, fine but not WR. Uh uhh.
     
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  12. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think DHB is a far better WR than Cobi and Ayers (though Ayers may have some untapped upside yet). He's also a very effective blocker from the WR position, which can be crucial at times. I'm not going to pimp him like PWP does, but I think some here are too dismissive of what he brings to the table as a #5 WR.
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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  14. SDOT

    SDOT Well-Known Member

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    He's never used. He's made plays when he's had to. Also, like SteelElvis said I forgot about his blocking as well. It would be different if he was dropping touchdowns or crucial balls but that hasn't happened here.
     
  15. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    Cobi Hamilton comes in at a 2.5 on the Moye scale. He lacks the fan fervor of a stronger storm but still whips things up and clouds vision when hd is gone.
     
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  16. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Keep in mind that I'm talking about a #5 receiver, not someone that you're going to make the "go to" guy. He had a TD plus another TD called back by penalty in the regular season game vs the Pats last season.
     
  17. PWP

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    Come on man Pimp him up. Join the players Ball we can all be Pimps when called upon . All I will say is that Haley/Ben fail to use him correctly. The guy does have hand problems not as bad as they used to be IMO, but he does have them. If he didn't he would be a super star at WR. The reality is his best tool is his speed. Why not run him on 9 routes 5 or 6 times a game against man coverage and throw it up ?
    No doubt he will beat his guy. Can he catch it ? Maybe or maybe not, but at least let him do what he does best .Stretch the field. If I was the OC or the QB anytime you tried to play man I would go to that deep ball . Teams can not play man against us with him on the field .Hoping he drops it is a very bad strategy to employ . He is a get out of man coverage guy we can use him to force Teams to play zone .

    Pimp ended. Players Ball concluded til next time.
     
  18. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Its not his forte. We were in desperate need for someone to step up after Coates injury, no one answered the call.

    Thats why I dont like the #5 receiver argument. Its great that he can block and a ST ace but I want my receivers to catch when called upon.

    I think DHB is overvalued here. He played 1 offensive snap Sunday, we'll see if that was an outlier (injury maybe?) or if they are planning to move away from him all together on offense and purely use him as a ST player.
     
  19. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    Again he should be called upon to catch on deep balls, he should also get more than 1 snap a game . 15 or so seems about right to me . I would also consider him as a FS in a single high look, we have some tape from this past game to support that.http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/09/film-room-darrius-heyward-bey-still-key-cog-special-teams/

    Look at those gifts. On one he gets down 10 yards faster than anyone, on another he beats both his jammers and beats all down by 20 yards. And on the middle he beats his block and closes the 10 yards of space to make a sure tackle. Then on the last gift he sets the edge perfectly and forces the return guy into the help.

    What would we need from a single high safety ? Speed .Check. How to track a open field runner and make a sure tackle. Check ? The ability to set a edge and force a player to the help? Check.

    Other things needed would be to track the ball in the Air .He is a WR so I would say Check . The ability to go up and fight for Deep Balls ? Again I would say Check.

    Would I want him in the box playing man no, would I want him in a 2 deep look with a lot of other responsibilities ? No. Could he be a deep FS like Peppers played last week against us ? Of course he could no evidence to show he couldn't , but lots to support he could.

    Would that be a key cog of our D probably not , but it could be another wrinkle we could add for 10 or 15 snaps a game in the right situations . My opinion is we have a Single High Safety on the squad right now , why not take a few looks at it ?
     
  20. RPO IZSB

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    Yea, he's a really good special teams player

    Holy ****, none of what DHB does on special teams is relative to playing FS/Single High. The fact that you think those skillsets are in general the same across positions and different sides of the ball... is hilarious.

    You haven't even covered the most important skill set a safety must possess. He must be able to breakdown plays at the snap of the ball. The most important thing any safety does (strong, free, high, 2, box, etc) is the movement he makes in the split second after the ball is snapped. That play recognition/IQ/Instinct is not taught to a 30 year old...

    Converting DHB to a Safety is the single dumbest thing I've read on the internet this year... and Donald Trump is president.

    Yea, there's no evidence that a special teams / WR can't play Single High safety in the NFL.... other than, you know NO NFL WRs playing FS in the NFL after converting to the position in their 30s..... LOL

    You don't want him in the box, you don't want him in Cover 2.... so your plan is to rotate safeties and just telegraph to the opponent your coverage? HAHAAHA "Hey guys, here comes our WR on to the field to play FS.... PS so we're going to be in Single High coverage, call your plays accordingly."

    Dumb
     
  21. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    You don't break down plays much as a single high Safety .I can teach a 5 year old in about 10 minutes what he is responsible for . His main trait is to watch and scan the field if a guy gets beat in his man coverage you are his protector . If a runner or a WR gets in the open field you slow him down at the least if you can get him on the ground.

    Now you have learned 90% of single High work ,I would be happy to help you with the other 10% if you would like .
     
  22. RPO IZSB

    RPO IZSB Well-Known Member

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    I love when you post things that highlight the fact that you have zero credibility. You sound like a 5 year old describing coverage.
     
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  23. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    How far do you think the single high guy moves ? He may adjust 3 or 4 yards depending on the sets .Nothing that the O does changes his true work.Protect the back half of the field. Watch the tape was Peppers moving all over the field ?Nope he was 20 to 25 yards deep in the center of the field.
     
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  24. RPO IZSB

    RPO IZSB Well-Known Member

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    A lot, depending on the route combinations called (That the FS needs to recognize) and the coverage called in front of him (that the FS needs to understand inside and out).

    Your description is something that comes out of a playbook for children/pee wee football.
     
  25. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Im not even attacking you, just making a statement here.

    There is vast difference between HS and the pros. THe fact that you dont differentiate from the two is what flips everyones wig.

    Think about how few athletes actually make it to the pros and how many college stars busted when they did get there.

    Its light years away from HS level of play.
     

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