1. Hi Guest, Registrations are now open. See you on the inside.
    Dismiss Notice

Wallace not going anywhere: possible franchise tag

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelByDesign, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

    2,044
    6
    Oct 20, 2011
  2. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

    5,380
    261
    Nov 30, 2011
    Im against it. Its going to be hard to convince him to pass up a 9 million dollar raise. I think it is risky cap wise.
     
  3. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

    2,044
    6
    Oct 20, 2011
    Risky? The cap hit would hurt, yes...

    But how often do you hear from a player that he's happy about the tag? They always want that long term deal.
     
  4. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

    5,380
    261
    Nov 30, 2011
    I agree but i just dont think he is worth that much. I dont see why they cant reach a deal by the 13th
     
  5. 58stillers

    58stillers

    2,188
    284
    Nov 14, 2011
    I really don't see the big deal some players make about the franchise tag. Yes a team pays them for being a top 5 player at their position, yes the team expects them to play at a high level to get a long term deal done. No, I really can't see using the franchise on Wallace now, but I didn't see much point of Franchising some of the players we have in the past either. Of course that doesn't mean much, as my name isn't Kevin Colbert.
     
  6. Jim90

    Jim90 Well-Known Member

    2,822
    273
    Oct 18, 2011
    the curse of the tag.. jeff reed(useless). woodley,(injuries) didn't the tag get put on Starks or Colon?
     
  7. DSteelerCT

    DSteelerCT Well-Known Member

    4,403
    217
    Nov 15, 2011
    $9M is way too much, he's not worth it. I'd rather tender him and get another 1st round pick and take my chances with Brown, Sanders and Cotchery.
     
  8. numbah58

    numbah58 Staff Member Mod Team

    1,856
    29
    Oct 16, 2011
    I can't believe you guys that think Wallace is expendable.. More than losing the TD's and yardage, his departure would reduce our other WR's effectiveness. He takes the cover off the "D" for Brown, Sanders and Miller. I think it would be a huge mistake to let him go.
     
  9. steelers197386

    steelers197386 Member

    6
    0
    Nov 14, 2011
    If Sanders can stay healthy, Wallace might only be the 3rd best receiver on the team, guy has had alot of drops in big games, Super Bowl last year, playoff game against Denver still don't understand why he went to the ground to try and catch the ball. I would even consider trading him while value is high and getting Floyd fron Notre Dame that dude was a monster in college, kind of physical presence the receiving corp is missing. :good:
     
  10. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

    2,044
    6
    Oct 20, 2011
    Starks got the transition tag a couple years ago.
     
  11. Homestead____Works

    Homestead____Works Well-Known Member

    327
    3
    Oct 22, 2011
    Exactly.

    Some of these folks just don't get it, that Brown was as good BECAUSE of Wallace.
     
  12. colsteveaustin

    colsteveaustin Well-Known Member

    582
    0
    Oct 17, 2011


    I agree.Wallace brings alot to the table.I think letting him walk would be a big mistake.
     
  13. Steelcop

    Steelcop Well-Known Member

    1,023
    24
    Nov 20, 2011
    I would not franchise him but he is a restricted free agent right? So if we give him a first round grade don't we get a first round pick if we lose him. With the first round grade we can negoiate with him with out fear of getting nothing for him if he leaves. I'd love to have Wallace back but with a first round pick we can upgrade our OL and mabe even get another burner with another pick. Two first round picks would benifit us for sure.
     
  14. cajunyankee

    cajunyankee Well-Known Member

    4,126
    684
    Oct 27, 2011
    I'm gonna be so upset if we use the Fran Tag on Wallace. No way is he worth that tag price or do we need that cap hit when we have other needs, ie NT.

    I'm really surprised at how you guys overvalue (imo) wallace soley based on his speed and worst yet attribute Browns success to Wallace's speed.

    Can a speedy WR help clear out things for another WR, yes, but that doesn't define the "other" WR. First off Wallace ran 33% (est.) of his rtes inside or on the dreaded bubble screen. Also know quite often wallace wasn't double teamed on his go rtes and this may be due to the fact teams now know Wallace doesn't have great hands ( too many drops ) and won't fight for the ball. Add to that Ben seems to have a problem throwing him the ball that deep (quite often has to stop to catch the ball) and this reduces his effectiveness.

    Browns success was mainly due to his very good rte running, GREAT hands and his yards after the catch. Brown is a much better WR and will get more double teams ( or safety help) than Wallace.

    Tender Wallace a 1st rd offer and if he walks let him go. With Brown and Sanders opening things up for Jerricho C. and Miller inside we'll be okay.

    Cajun-
     
  15. NickSteel

    NickSteel Well-Known Member

    161
    13
    Dec 4, 2011
    Agree. I like him, but would rather another 1st to use in a real position of need than overpaying at a position of strength.
     
  16. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

    5,380
    261
    Nov 30, 2011
    All wallace has is speed and a fear of being hit. I say that becuase he refuses to go up and get the ball. Brown does it all plus returns kicks. If i have to choose between the two im picking brown
     
  17. bigsteelerfaninky

    bigsteelerfaninky Well-Known Member

    7,235
    366
    Oct 24, 2011
    I like Wallace lets pay him the 9 mil...he is well worth it
     
  18. noitall0605

    noitall0605 Well-Known Member

    348
    0
    Dec 1, 2011



    I agree, tender him and roll the dice.
     
  19. noitall0605

    noitall0605 Well-Known Member

    348
    0
    Dec 1, 2011



    My vote too. He is very fast guy, but that is it. Once Brown started getting press he seemed to go in the tank with a minor chip on shoulder. I tender him and thats it. But thats me.... I dont have a problem breaking up though. Some guys fall in love and will not let go. Hopefully the Steelers dont over purchace- thats all I ask.
     
  20. numbah58

    numbah58 Staff Member Mod Team

    1,856
    29
    Oct 16, 2011
    Hopefully Art II and Colbert value Wallace more than some of the Madden '12 crowd in here.

    You guys seem to think that 1st round picks are locks.

    Why in the world would you give up a young, proven commodity for a 1st round pick that could end up being a bust??

    Makes absolutely NO sense to me.
     
  21. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

    5,930
    465
    Oct 26, 2011
    I think he is a good almost great WR,however if we have to move forward without him then getting another # 1 pick could work in our favor....

    With the cap situation it is really out of our control IMO......Nothing wrong with speculating what we might do if he leaves...We can't tag him because we still lack the cap space,,,so he will be on the market if no takers great ,but if there is we must have a plan.....

    IMO another VET WR with great understanding of the game could help Ben out with his transition....
     
  22. noitall0605

    noitall0605 Well-Known Member

    348
    0
    Dec 1, 2011
    The other Madden crowd can throw 9 million at him and think that is a sound investment....


    still, I tender him, see what the value is, I always have option to match- someone losses their head and throws Daniel Snyder money at him- take the pick and move on..... figure you can recover, your WR scout has been balls of late
     
  23. steelfan

    steelfan Well-Known Member

    108
    1
    Jan 2, 2012
    I agree that the Steelers shouldn't overpay but the only teams that are going to be willing to overpay for him are teams that are drafting around or below the Steelers. You saw in the Super Bowl what happens when the Patriots cant break coverage over the top. Brown is to the Steelers what Welker is to the Pats, granted with younger skills but I would be leery about losing "our Randy Moss" with no proven commodity to replace him. Snyder isn't dumb enough any longer to give up a top 10 pick for Wallace, Mike Shanahan won't allow it. That is the catch - 22 situation the Steelers may find themselves in. Ben has wanted a big receiver since Plax left and they haven't found one, now some want to let go of his game breaker - tough choice.
     
  24. noitall0605

    noitall0605 Well-Known Member

    348
    0
    Dec 1, 2011
    Plus, Ben doesnt throw the deep ball very well, one that Wallace would thrive with.
     
  25. CANTON STEEL

    CANTON STEEL Well-Known Member

    1,287
    3
    Oct 17, 2011
    Have some of us forgotten how young Wallace still is? His potential is through the roof!! Did we forget how he started the season last year?? People were actually considering labeling him a top 3 wr in the NFL!! Teams saw what he could do and started to double team him. That left the door open for Brown. Brown is a GREAT wr as well, but he also wouldn't have had the kind of season he did if he had the attention of defenses on him like Wallace did.

    To some Wallace is just speed. To me he's incredible speed with a huge up side.

    /2cents
     

Share This Page

Welcome to the ultimate resource for Steelers fans. Sign Up Here!