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The Top 5 worst offseason moves.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by 86WardsWay, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. GB_Steel

    GB_Steel Well-Known Member

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    I don't have the history with this franchise to go back very far (past 1991) so most of my examples will be recent:

    1) Letting Woodson walk.
    2) Letting O'Donnell walk.
    3) Bruce Arians' "retirement" situation.
    4) Drafting Mendy over Duane Brown.
    5) Franchising Starks for multiple years.
     
  2. rmorphy

    rmorphy Well-Known Member

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    Without a doubt, Not drafting Marino is the worst mistake EVER for the Steelers.
    Imagine, if we're called Sixburgh, we could've been Tenburgh.
     
  3. Myronwemissyinz

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    Sorry mac you DONT draft them based on what they did in collage. You draft them based on what you THINK they CAN do in the NFL. Dirty will never play a down in a reg season game.
     
  4. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if no drafting Marino cost the Steelers 4 SB's but I am pretty certain that he would have taken them to 2 and probably would have won them both. JMHO.
     
  5. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully getting rid of Woodley will not go on that list someday!!!
     
  6. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    Just out of curiosity what are you viewing as a bad move in the Arians retirement? The way they handled it or the forcing him out?
     
  7. obxsteeler

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    I know that's a popular concept but do you base it on the 4 SB wins he had at Miami? They probably had better overall personnel than we did in that era and he couldn't get them back after his rookie year. What made that choice look worse was the lose of Gabe Rivera who I thought had a chance to become a dominating a DL as Marino was a QB. Probably my biggest regret as a Steeler fan was not getting to see him play 10 years
     
  8. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    This is a good point. The comparison is unfair, in a way, because Rivera never had a chance to make his case.

    The Dolphins' weakness was obviously that they had no running game, which Marino would have had if he had been drafted by us. But would that have had a knock-on effect on Marino's performance? Would Marino have struggled when Cowher took over? Given how uninterested the FO was in getting a star QB after Malone, would the drafting of Marino would have changed that philosophy?
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Possibly in the 80's but the Steelers had a great roster in the 90's, Marino didn't retire until 99, I could see them winning 2 SB's easy in that time frame. NOD took us to a SB, I think Marino could have.
     
  10. deljzc

    deljzc Well-Known Member

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    If Marino had come to Pittsburgh, he would have extended Chuck Noll's time as head coach just like he did with Shula in Miami.

    The real question of a supposed "Marino/Noll" era in Pittsburgh has to do with whether you think the game was passing Noll by like it was Shula. The 80's were all about innovation. The teams that were successful are generally looked at as revolutionizing the game (Walsh, Gibbs, Buddy Ryan, Parcells/Belichick).

    Noll's background on the offensive side of the ball had roots back to Paul Brown. Could he have adapted to the changes around the league fast enough to take advantage of Marino? I know the defense the Steelers ran in the 1980's was not very good. We were copy catting the 3-4 concepts (most teams were) but were certainly not on the cutting edge of defensive football.

    It's always an interesting what-if scenario, having Marino in Pittsburgh, but impossible to say one way or another what would have happened.
     
  11. Cali Steel

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    1-5. Not pounding the rock down the Packers throats.
     
  12. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Pretty sure if we did that in the off-season Goodell would fine us...
     
  13. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure not
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    cali might be saying our team in the super bowl was already thinking offseason

    I mean HELL mendy holding on to the ball all relaxed and stuff fumbled it away and ruined all the chances of winning (GREEN)
     
  14. Busman

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    More importantly is how is he to develop assuming Ben has 4 more years left and Landry is 2 years into the system now. That gives him 6 years of riding the pine.

    Bman
     
  15. Cali Steel

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    Oops, off-season. My bad, carry on.
     
  16. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    easy

    with our top rated offense, over the next few years Laundry will have plenty off time to play in the 2nd half of games
    Keeping Ben fresh for our late season super bowl push. Allowing Ben to run for another 30 yd td like days gone bye

    we either keep him after this because Ben will have 4-5 rings total and retire or he can stay to back up Laundry.
     
  17. Busman

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    Yeah because we will be up by 30 or 40 points in many of our games allowing Ben to rest
     
  18. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    Exactly

    we're seeing it along the same lines

    imagine having that kind of lead in all those games

    whew what a relief

    (green)
     
  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    isn't that what we look at to see if you THINK they can play in the NFL? what the heck else would you base that thinking on? high school? you don't throw for that type of yardage without being talented. we shall see I guess.:cool:
     
  20. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    all I know is I was at the AFCCG in the orange bowl in 1983 and watched the steelers play the dolfish. if #13 was our qb in that game we would have played SF in the SB. I had the luxury of watching every home game and all the playoffs in Miami that year, marinos rookie year. it wasn't so much marino setting the world on fire as it was mark duper and mark clayton (two small fast guys I may add) that made marino look real good. he threw slants and short passes to them and they did the rest.:cool:
     
  21. GB_Steel

    GB_Steel Well-Known Member

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    Mainly the way it was handled, I'd say about 90% of it. For as much as we pride ourselves on doing things the right way, we botched that one bad. Announcing the guys "retirement" only to have him sign very quickly with Indy and go on the win COTY and follow up a very successful first year in AZ.

    10% I think was not a good move. I hated him as an OC for us, but Ben loved him, and usually a scheme change on offense isn't the best thing to do with Super Bowl aspirations. We're better off now on offense, but we may have already missed our window of opportunity for #7.

    The overall handling of the BA situation reminds me of some of the questionable player personnel moves that we've made in the past few years.
     
  22. steelers5859

    steelers5859 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anyone mentioned Duce Staley.
     
  23. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't he a member of KISS?
     
  24. Busman

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    Getting rid of the notorious Pimply Dan.

    He was our greatest asset. Once he left the organization all hell broke loose.

    Damn I miss him

    Bman
     
  25. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Amen.

    Tomlin should have a sign nailed above the player's tunnel leading on to Heinz Field that says: "We can loose no more games"
     

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