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Another Tomlin Tradition Trashed

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Bubbahotep, Sep 9, 2026 at 5:09 AM.

  1. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    I cannot send Tash home because I am an AI, but I can share music and media connected to that name.
     
  2. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    ok irish
     
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  3. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    I messed it all up
    I get what you
    Were saying originally
    And
    I effed it up I
    Need to go take
    A
    Failure shower
     
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  4. Iron Nickel

    Iron Nickel Well-Known Member

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    Sounds horrible. Like it involves spanking to Rosie O'Donnell or something.
     
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  5. Captain Lemming

    Captain Lemming Well-Known Member

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    OK, I'll bite, real facts:

    Asked Gemini to compare Steelers preseason projections versus their actual record
    The Steelers have successfully surpassed their projected win totals for the past six consecutive seasons.

    Season Projected Win Total (O/U) Actual Record Actual Wins Result last 6 season:
    2025
    8.5 10-7-0 10 Over
    2024
    8.5 10-7-0 10 Over
    2023
    8.5 10-7-0 10 Over
    2022
    7.5 9-8-0 9 Over
    2021
    8.5 9-7-1 9 Over
    2020
    9.5 12-4-0 12 Over

    Tomlins career record versus preseason projections:

    Season Projected Win Total (O/U) Actual Record Actual Wins Result
    2025
    8.5 10-7-0 10 Over
    2024
    8.5 10-7-0 10 Over
    2023
    8.5 10-7-0 10 Over
    2022
    7.5 9-8-0 9 Over
    2021
    8.5 9-7-1 9 Over
    2020
    9.5 12-4-0 12 Over
    2019
    9.0 8-8-0 8 Under
    2018 10.5 9-6-1 9 Under
    2017 10.5 13-3-0 13 Over
    2016
    10.5 11-5-0 11 Over
    2015
    8.5 10-6-0 10 Over
    2014
    8.5 11-5-0 11 Over
    2013
    9.0 8-8-0 8 Under
    2012 10.0 8-8-0 8 Under
    2011 10.5 12-4-0 12 Over
    2010
    8.5 12-4-0 12 Over
    2009
    10.5 9-7-0 9 Under
    2008 9.0 12-4-0 12 Over
    2007
    9.0 10-6-0 10 Over


    The characterization that Tomlin "underachieved" is false by definition as the Steelers surpassed expectations for the last 6 straight seasons. From the lens of preseason predictions based on the general assessment of talent, all these teams that "lost again in the playoffs" were not even projected to make the playoffs.

    I know we all think every team has SB talent but it is not true. To the extent that Tomlin had a hand in team building, he bears responsibility. But his actual "coaching" of the talent that was there? Nah, not an underachievement at all.
     
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  6. Captain Lemming

    Captain Lemming Well-Known Member

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    Underachieve? Maybe the numbers say the opposite?

    Mike Tomlin
    holds the confirmed modern NFL record for the most outright (straight-up) wins as an underdog with 44 career victories.

    Because official Vegas point spread data is incomplete prior to the late 1970s, it is difficult to definitively name an all-time volume leader across the entire history of the league. However, among coaches whose careers have been fully tracked in the modern betting era, Tomlin holds the crown for both the highest volume of underdog wins and the highest underdog win percentage.
    • Mike Tomlin: 44 outright wins as an underdog. Because he wins these games at an unprecedented rate, he was able to accumulate the most total underdog wins without having to suffer through hundreds of underdog losses.
    • Against The Spread (ATS): When factoring in point covers rather than just outright wins, Tomlin also leads all active and recent coaches with 70 ATS covers as an underdog, comfortably ahead of peers like Sean Payton and Andy Reid.
    Mike Tomlin holds the highest win percentage for a coach with at least 50 games played specifically as an underdog.
    • Mike Tomlin (50+ Games as Underdog): He holds a 52.4% outright win percentage with a record of 44-40 when his team is not favored.
    • He is the only coach in the Super Bowl era to maintain a winning record with a sample size of 50 or more games as an underdog.
     
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  7. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    This is quite a feat
    Impressive to say the least
    I guess as fans speaking for myself
    The lack of a playoff win in 10 years is just unacceptable
    Other than that
    You can say Mikey T overachieved
    Unfortunately that was the regular season
    But
    Underachieved in the playoffs
    No doubt no same team
    Can win the Super Bowl every year
    But
    Playoff wins are quite nice
    Once in awhile
    Good post
    My friend
     
  8. Captain Lemming

    Captain Lemming Well-Known Member

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    I get it. And change is fresh, I hope "new" Mike will get us those wins. But it will only happen if the talent gets better and our young talent grows. I just take issue with the Tomlin bashing. Like his predecessors his time has past. But I appreciate his time and am under no illusion that we have more Lombadis with another coach.

    I would suggest that "losing in the playoffs" is not an underachievement for a team that has no business being there in the first place. THAT is my point.

    Now the Ravens and Bills are projected SB contenders EVERY SEASON AND FAIL. Sure the Ravens have won a couple of playoff games. So what? I would suggest that THIS is underachieving on a scale far in excess of us.
     
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  9. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    You are also correct
    Overachieved just to get to playoffs
    Still unacceptable for any coach to go 10 years without a playoff win
     
  10. Captain Lemming

    Captain Lemming Well-Known Member

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    Sure, it was time for a change. Heck even Tomlin himself knew it.
     
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  11. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Sad part was
    The Steelers organization didn’t know or did they?
    Hats off to Mike for realizing it was time to walk away
    I appreciated everything Mike did for us
    It just got quite frustrating
     

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