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Who will be the first rookie to earn a starting role?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Joel Buchsbaum, May 12, 2026 at 6:32 AM.

  1. Max Iheanachor

    3 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Germie Bernard

    11 vote(s)
    52.4%
  3. Drew Allar

    2 vote(s)
    9.5%
  4. Germie Bernard

    3 vote(s)
    14.3%
  5. Gennings Dunker

    2 vote(s)
    9.5%
  1. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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    OP is IT challenged :shrug:

    I’m more surprised he hasn’t figured out how to fix it
     
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  2. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Well-Known Member

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    It's obvious that he rigged this poll in Bernard's favor, so he'd get the most votes.
     
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  3. MojaveDesertPghFan

    MojaveDesertPghFan Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.

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    Pink Floyd would be proud....................my Dad always loved this album cover.

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  4. Animus

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    I guess that determines how much teams play nickel defense. Steelers, under Tomlin, ran 245/425 damn near 3/4th of the defensive snaps ;however, that role was also shared by a 3rd S. So i could see how a slot CB, in some systems, is a starter.
     
  5. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I agree that if he's not at least the 3rd OT (swing tackle / tackle eligible?) to start the season, then it's not a great look for a 1st round pick.

    I also agree that picking Max means they don't think Jones or Cook is a long term answer.
     
  6. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I didn't even notice that!

    I should start doing this on the MC portion of the tests I write. Really start to mess with the psycology of the students.
     
  7. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    IMO, this is a reasonable argument. Nickle has been our "base" defense for along time.

    Here's a list of Steelers snap counts last year. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/2025-snap-counts.htm

    It's funky because it's hard to define who our nickle back was after rotating guys around due to injuries in both the secondary and on the DL. Moving Ramsey from CB to S also really screws with this.

    But our CB with the 3rd highest snap% was Echols @ 44.85%.

    Our DL with the 3rd highest snap% was Harmon @ 38.3%.

    "Starter" doesn't mean a lot for rotational positions that aren't on the field all the time IMO.

    The numbers from 2024 don't help all that much either since our CB3 was Sutton who only started playing in week 10.

    CB3: Sutton 23.44%
    DL3: Larry O, 45.2%

    No matter what, your nickel back and your 3rd DL are going to be rotational guys who get some snap% that's probably of similar order.

    I think it's kind of odd to call one a starter and one a backup just based on their position without looking at their individual snap counts. And neither is the backup to the other.
     
  8. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Not just us.

    I'm pretty sure nickel is the "base" defense for most teams. 3-4 and 4-3 are sub-packages in today's NFL.

    I even think there was a season not long ago where dime was our most frequently called defense.
     

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