The Steelers Made A Choice

As we all know the Steelers went against their history and selected an offensive minded HC. Lacking a franchise QB for the future I believe this was the correct call if they were going to make any progress at finding one. Tomlin clearly wasn't the guy to do it.

This is how polar opposite the two HCs are in their careers. Charting out PFR's SRS (Simple Rating System) for offense and defense each season the contrast is striking. (if you are unfamiliar, the SRS is PFR's method of rating the quality of each team's unit compared to the average for a season. A zero rating is NFL average). I figured there would be differences between the two coaches but wow. This suggests we won't be watching "Steelers football" in the coming seasons but rather something very unfamiliar. Should be fun!

 

While I agree...... I can't see charts or graphs pointing to much.
The NFL today uses statistical analysis to change what they do. Even still, there is still a huge element of good old gut feeling involved.

Tomlin-ball has moved on. He had some faults, unlike a lot of folks I do respect his career but at the same time, anytime you are over 5 or 6 years on a team, you are probably past the expiration date.
Tomlin refused to adapt, and that's a killer. His staff really, really needed overhauled.
I never really bought into the tyrant theory, but because his staff was his guys, they did all think the same.

Holmgren in Dallas wasn't the same as Holmgren in Green Bay.

For example (and this goes to the other thread about offense)
Right at this moment, today, he has to figure the QB situation out.
At the moment, Mason is #1. That means the QB is probably going to be in shotgun most all the time.
If Howard gets the nod, he could be under center maybe 50/50... I'm not entirely sure.
Rogers would probably be nearly the same.

This impacts how the run game goes. He most definitely wants to run between the tackles.
I never liked Najee running from the shotgun, Bell was very good at it, but Najee was better from the QB under center.
Warren is also pretty good, actually from either.
I could see Warren and Dowdy (inside/outside threats) in the backfield in a 2 TE set but with Rogers or Howard under center. Mason is capable of it but that not his strong suite.
(man, this can expand into War and Peace quickly)

At the same time, Holmgren is not the most innovative. He will still lean on the old school but does pay attention and incorporates next gen.
So, I think we will see a more modern team. Maybe not so many "Bubble Screens"

I agree with the article that talked about Free Agency sort of tipping the hat to what Holmgren wants. The draft results should sharpen that image more. He needs a speedy WR, a QB, OL.. They have 5 picks in the top 100. If you can't grab an Impact player or two within those, well we're in trouble.

 

Anybody else notice the down turn for MT's offense almost perfectly coincides with Ben's elbow taking a down turn?
MM's takes a hit when he lost Dak as well.


My point is we must find a QB for this to matter.

 

McCarthy took a hit in 2017 when he lost Rodgers. Steelers barely beat the Packers that year when they had Hundley at QB. This was the year Steelers sandbagged wins against backup QBs... no Luck, no Rodgers, no Deshawn Watson when he was good. Steelers eventually lost Shazier and got their asses handed to them by Bortles Jags in the playoffs. The rest is popcorn history.

 

Right. No QB makes your offense worse and you become more beatable. I think that was your point.

 

Holmgren?

 

I think you mean Mike McCarthy.

 

i was going to say. did we get a new coach?

 

Window 1 I see quite a few tallish bruised black n blue buildings with short driveways and
window 2 I see a little different skyline with water accesses.

2013 suckedass for both teams. woof

2020/24 defensive injuries for Dallas didn't help
hope McCarthy doesn't rely too much on star players to make splash plays?

going to be interesting and fun

 

Packers have had 4 coaches since Holmgren.... late 90's.

 

mason throwing to 5 big targets. friermuth, washington, sadiq, pittman, DK. what could go wrong?

 

And the first one(Ray Rhodes)was the head coach for only 1 season!

 

What is a sadiq

Can it be cured

 

Why do I keep calling McCarthy Holmgren? lol....... it's the damn GB connection.....

 

My apologies... it's that GB connection... and old age. lol

 

worse than malik m'druerz unfortunately

 

Well they are both Super Bowl winning coaches, Packers coaches, with good offensive backgrounds and overweight.... so yeah, there's a lot of commonality.

 

yes with more cowbell.

 

Nothing wrong with the targets it's the guy throwing to them that's the problem. The crazy thing about Sadiq is that he's 245 lbs and can run almost as fast as Calvin Austin.

 

Theres only two years Tomlins offense was better than McCarthy’s - 2015 and 2017. And in 2017 Rodgers was hurt. Overall MM has the clear edge. On D Tomlin overall has an edge by a narrower margin. Its pretty clear Tomlin took over for Cowher when Cowher left prematurely. They had a young franchise Qb and a dominant D and recently came off a super bowl victory. The logical thing to do was to get a coach somewhat similar to Bill

this is a completely different situation. The team is in desperate need to find and develop a franchise Qb. Tomlin clearly wasnt the guy to do it. So they went with someone who has had more success in that area. MM has developed at least three Qbs.

 

Other than a background in defense and age of early 30's when they were hired.... this is where the similarites end with Tomlin and Cowher. In hindsight, they were two totally different coaches. Cowher fired coordinators every other year, usually hiring from outside the organization... while Tomlin promoted from within even after mediocre results. Cowher was also much more successful in the playoffs... and drafted better, was better at acquiring effective free agents, IMO. Cowher... even with the horrific AFC Championship loss to Chargers, was a much better coach.

 

i hate to say it but a good defense.

 

And he is 6’-3” not 3’-6”

The defender can not cover him just by being between the QB and the shrimp

 

would have a hard time?

 

Is AI taking over?