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Steelers and Sam Darnold

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Joel Buchsbaum, Feb 9, 2026.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Man you really go to the mat for players you pimped. He doesnt have some extensive injury history he just sucks.
     
  2. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I didn't pimp him. I wanted Linderbaum. I have not only pointed this out to you repeatedly, I have dug up the evidence in the past, too. I didn't hate the Pickett pick, but was primarily happy it wasn't Willis, who was a bust with the Titans.
     
  3. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Try again. An ankle injury cost him a month late in his second season. When the Eagles turned to him to fill in for Hurts the following year, he got hurt. When the Browns traded for him and gave him a chance to compete for the job last year, he missed most of the preseason with another injury. There were also multiple concussions as a Steeler that cost him games.

    That and Tomlin's ridiculous mishandling of him derailed Pickett's career.
     
  4. pczach

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    I'm telling you what my personal evaluation of him was. There is no hindsight about it in regard to how I felt about him or had him graded.

    I don't think he was ever considered a late round QB by anyone. It's just that most who had him being drafted that high felt that it was because it was a weak quarterback class and a team was stretching a bit, not because he was an elite talent. As I said, I thought they should have waited until the second round to take him even if they had to move up. I thought they should have used the first pick for a potential impact player because I didn't see value in Pickett at that point of the draft.
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Pimped him as in you felt he was the best QB in the class. Do you dent that?
     
  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Whats going on with you, you never used to spew so much BS.

    • 2022 (Concussions): Pickett suffered two separate concussions in his rookie season (Week 6 vs. Bucs, Week 14 vs. Ravens), causing him to miss time.
    • 2023 (Knee/Bone Bruise): Left the Week 4 game against the Texans with a knee injury, diagnosed as a bone bruise.
    • 2023 (Ribs): Sustained a rib injury in Week 8 against the Jaguars, though he did not miss a start.
    • 2023 (High Ankle Sprain/Surgery): Suffered a right ankle injury in Week 13 against the Cardinals, requiring surgery to repair a high ankle sprain.
    • 2024/2025 (Preseason Hamstring): While with the Cleveland Browns in 2025, sustained a hamstring injury in late July, limiting his practice time in training camp.
    These arent career altering injuries, they are basically injuries every player deals with. His biggest injury was the ankle injury. That didnt lead to him losing his job, he lost his job because they saw how well the offense ran under Rudolph highlighting how awful Pickett had been playing. I would have liked to see how he would have done without Canada too but I think they saw all they had to see when Rudolph was in there and you know Im no fan of Rudolph as a QB.

    Why would you even mention the injury with the Eagles, did you think he would wrestle the job away from Hurts if he didnt get injured :lolol:
     

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  7. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    He was the best quarterback in the class, the Tomlin got a hold of him.
     
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  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    What's going on with you? I don't remember you claiming that I was spewing BS, then providing evidence to support my claim.

    I mention the injury with the Eagles because it was the first time he played in a decent system in the NFL and he had a chance to develop his game and show something for another team as Darnold did with the 49ers. I thought that was obvious.

    Injuries cost Pickett the opportunity to finish out the 2023 season without the shackles of the Matt Canada offense. The offense looked much better with Pickett as soon as Canada was gone. The injury with the Eagles cost him a few starts in a competent NFL offense, something he didn't get in Pittsburgh. The injury in Cleveland kept him out of the entire preseason, cost him his shot at that job.

    I "spewed" accurate information. Thank you for helping back that up.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You’re a rip :roflmao:
     
  10. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    Well if you ask some here Tomlin/Canada mishandled him so badly he was no longer able to be fixed

    It’s easier for some like Scribble to make false claims and stick to them rather than admit to being wrong and seeing the obvious facts

    :shrug:
     
  11. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    I graphed the increase

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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He’s just been making things up lately, that didnt used to be his MO.

    Harris didnt get the bulk of the carries.

    Pickett injury history is mostly ho hum and the same as every other player and almost all of it occurred while he was with the Steelers. Has nothing to do with his failing as a QB.
     
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  13. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    :drinks:
     
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  15. PWP

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    KFP is a bust .. He was a bad pick he has happy feet and is not mentally tough .. When he asked for a trade because he had someone to compete with told me all I needed to know ...He should be grateful for the money he has been gifted in the NFL... IMHO him and Mason are not good enough to even be in the NFL they are fortunate the QB position is very weak the past 5 years or so..
     
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  16. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I'm right and you just helped me prove it. Thanks again.
     
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  17. Formerscribe

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    Harris got the bulk of the carries in the one game they both started and finished together. Fact.

    An injury knocked him out of the lineup for a month in his final season in Pittsburgh, ended his chance to fill in as the starter in Philadelphia, and robbed him of the preseason in Cleveland. That doesn't even count the two concussions. Facts.

    So no, I have not been making things up. You just don't like what I'm telling you.
     
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  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    @Formerscribe@Formerscribe keeps trying to tell us that is fake news even though It’s easy to verify the facts

    LMAO

    :lollmao:
     
  19. S.T.D

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    Winning comment.
     
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  20. MojoUW

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    There’s many folks both professional and not that had Pickett as a late round pick. His scoring was all over the place.

    I got talked round on him. But I just think hes the kinda guy that needs a TON of scheme and roster support to succeed.
     
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  21. S.T.D

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    Someone tell me what rookie Qb McVay has coached up???
    I keep seeing his name like he has. He took the closest guy he had to a rookie, who wasn't a rookie, and traded him for a guy that had been in the league for ages.
    I have yet to see total proof McVay can coach a rookie Qb up.
    This is not saying he's not a good coach, I think hes a dang good coach. This is just saying I have seen no proof he's a Qb whisperer
     
  22. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    I notice that when I asked him this question so simply and basically he had no response

    Not even a lie or fantasy

    Didn't even try to get the last word in
     
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  23. Steelvision

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    sure, im talking Qb. KP showed potential at the end of the first season, moving out of the pocket, completing passes for good gains on the move. Then in the following season its like they put the clamps on him. I understand he wasn't allowed to audible. I agree with you, I’ll even say no rookie Qb could succeed with Tomlin’s conservative approach and Canadas management of the offense. Tomlin didnt have the patience for it. I think thats a big part of why hes gone.
     
  24. Steelvision

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    i agree, he didnt have the right attitude or mental makeup. It was probably a tough situation to be in. I might have asked for a trade in his situation too. But a better minded guy stays quiet and works hard.
     
  25. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand why it's so important to you that he's a rookie in McVay's case?

    Because this is not
     

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