Steelers and Sam Darnold

Its not a suspect O line, it is a young up and coming O line. Thats what it was considered at the start of the season at least and still is. Dont let Fautenu’s struggle in the WC game fool you.

we also had a well regarded new OC and a head coach all the players love to play for on a team that still is a playoff team with a winning culture.

we couldve retained Pickens if thats what it would take to sign Darnold.

i think theres a good chance he wouldve taken the money and signed with the steelers. Just mo.

 

I don’t agree, but I’ll give you the oline. I’ll even contemplate a world where they don’t trade Pickens.

Darnold is a system QB. He doesn’t transcend system. He acknowledges this.

why would he go somewhere that doesn’t run the system that creates his success ?

 

If he gets benched after a year, how’s that work?

Darnold spoke about how he wanted to be a starter and play the style of offense that he succeeded in.

That wasn’t what Steelers were offering.

Money talks but it isn’t the only factor in these decisions.

 

What system are we talking about? Game managing while Relying on a good running game and defense? Lol

i think we couldve managed that.

 

We have Darnold’s own statements. I remember him making comments about offensive fit and stuff.

I fully agree that we will never know. But the public information available doesn’t make it seem very likely that Darnold was shopping without some parameters on the search.

 

Darnold is gritty, not great.

If he was on a team with just an average defense, he would have to do more and would make many more mistakes.

I think he is just a little above average.

 

Darnold knows how important it is to be in a good siuation... Remember, he was with the Jets.

Also, it's not just about the first big contract he can get, but also the ones that follow, and the Seahawks' situation was much better for the short and long term future for him

 

On A: The OC likely played a bigger part than people are suggesting. I mean Kubiak vs Smith?? LOL. The system may or may not be that important. Playcalling? For sure.
On B: Not all that sure the SEA OL was any better before the season. They gave up 50 sacks the previous season. But JSN was a legit rising elite player and a reason why they let PIT have Metcalf.

 

Well the Steelers made two bad decisions. Trading away Pickens for little ( He is a top NFL WR ) and not signing Darnold. How did these guys play last year?


Diva control was a big weakness of our last coach. You don't shame such a player in the media ever. Such talk is one on one behind closed doors. Instead you tell him that when the game is 2 or more scores out of reach in the final minutes, players who act like this are not likely to receive playing time which hurts his stats. If the diva buys into the team concept, you play him in such situations, pumping his stats which is what he cares about first. A play called for him im these circuimstaces is okay if he is a key player for the team.


But trading away Pickens and not singing Darnold in free agecny were big mistakes.



Darnold may not be a future hall of fame QB ( I say he has a 20% ) however to call him a system QB is wrong.


System QB's do not go 14-3 one year in the NFL, and 14-3 the next on two different teams and win the superbowl. They do not throw for 60TD's in 2 years, nor do they engineer 9 game winning drives in the last two years.

If Sam is a system QB, he is the best one is 10 years or more. Show me such a list under those terms no one can.

I see him as a good passer with a top arm. A down the field or over the middle thrower with both accuracy and velocity on the football ( Both are important in the 5,6,7,8 and 9 routes )

See the elementary chart below.


https://www.360player.com/blog/football-101-breaking-down-the-basics-of-the-route-tree


Sam makes the types of throws, those 3 or 4 passes that produce scoring drives and win games.

He is 27, healthy and in his football prime as a Quarterback. System QB do not.


-JB

 

You don't think he would have made those same comments after signing with the Steelers? Come on. It's what these guys say, when what they really care about is the money.

 

You do realize that the Vikings and the Seahawks and the 49ers all run the same/similar offensive system, right? I mean you factored that in to your calculations?

 

He made comments prior to taking FA visits as well.

The Steelers were/are not an attractive place for a FA QB to come and play and IMPROVE his stock. The Seahawks very much were. That matters, especially when Darnold was one bad season ending performance from falling out of the "that guy is a starting QB" ranks.

 

Agreed. The Coach I was talking about was Smith....he hasn't mentored or whatever a QB to success since Tannehill.

 

It would take a crazy overpaid to have him and this is possible it would been a bad decision for Darnold and the steelers in the long run.The steelers are not a good situation for a QB right now and this is important for Darnold to be in a good situation with good coaching and players around him

 

+1 on TF.

But I do think our situation at LT is suspect.

 

FWIW, I also think it's "kidding ourselves" to think that Darnold would have had the same result (especially re: team success) if he came here.

 

I don’t think a lot of passing QB’s see Pittsburgh as a desirable place to play.

You can win 10 games but it will be ugly and rarely will you throw to wide open WR’s due to the scheme on offense.

 

Add to that; Seattle has better sushi restaurants than the 'Burgh. ... I heard that was a factor for an ex-Steeler player that went west.

 

I guarantee not many teams thought seriously about getting Darnold.
Hell the the 49ers let him go,and got, or kept Mac Jones as a backup, and then the Vikings decided they rather use their rookie instead of keeping Darnold, but somehow the Steelers should have known better????? LoL that's what make me laugh at people

 

I hope we can now put that in the PAST TENSE: "I don’t think a lot of passing QB’s saw Pittsburgh as a desirable place to play."

Hopefully, we're on to a modern, NFL-style offense without Tomlin's play-not-to-lose mentality that worked in the regular season and failed epically in the postseason.

 

Steelers didnt have anyone else, just Rudy and Howard, it would've been better to acquire an improved Darnold than another washed up star. Sam would've made a good bridge Qb. But No one thought the Seahawks would be super bowl material with him, they didnt even make the playoffs last year.

 

If google's AI can be trusted, my first guess here was correct.