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Boz extra point, tipped?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Jan 6, 2026 at 6:57 AM.

  1. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    By the look of ravens #39 celebration ... he was the one that got a piece of it
     
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  2. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Sure. The NFL never gets any play wrong... just ask Jesse James.
     
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  3. pczach

    pczach Well-Known Member

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    The immediate reaction from the Ravens #39 Keondre Jackson tells you everything you need to know. That's how players react when they get a piece of a kick.
     
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  4. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Reading way too much into his 'reaction'. And to be clear Boz has missed three FGs in the last three games, had a kickoff land short of the landing zone, and his FG % is his lowest in three years. It's legitimate to wonder if this is the beginning of the end for him. A gradual decline rather than a fall off a cliff. And any hiccups in the playoffs could mean an early exit.
     
  5. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    Ha! Great minds! I just watched the replay of that one!
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Cleanest version yet. Slow it down, no way he didn’t get a fingernail on that. Enough to change the rotation.
     
  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    As much as I hate it, they didnt get the James call wrong, it’s the rule.

    Regardless, rule interpretation is a lot different than having visual evidence of a block kick.

    I’m sure they have something conclusive or why bother changing it.
     
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  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I agree regarding the kick, but not the James touchdown. He had two feet down and made a football move. Even if you disagree, as close as it was, there is no way in hell they had enough evidence to overturn that.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I know thats how I felt about it at the time but going by rule I was under the impression it wasnt a catch but its been so long I dont know. Hell Im not even sure what a catch is today.
     
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  10. Arch Stanton

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    Neither does anyone else, including the refs. They said Likely needed a 3rd step for it to be considered a catch, that's the 1st time I ever heard that rule.
     
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  11. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    The rule is two steps and a football move. The third step would have been considered the football move in that instance. That is why the James ruling was wrong. He had two feet down, then pivoted to dive over the goal line. He had already made the catch before he hit the ground.
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    What about the whole survive the ground thing which I always thought was contradictory to the rule that the ground cant cause a fumble.
     
  13. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    That was the argument on the replay, but his knee is down with control of the ball, then he twists and lunges for the goal line. I can understand someone seeing it either way, which is why it shouldn't have been overturned. The evidence wasn't conclusive.

    You aren't wrong because the problem was caused by a terrible rule, but at the very least, if you were going to call that one incomplete, the throw to Likely had to be incomplete, too.
     
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  14. Arch Stanton

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    Jesse James caught the ball, extended the ball across the goal line (football move), so it should've been a TD as soon as he broke the plane. Doesn't matter what happens after that.

    In Likely's case, he caught the ball, got two feet down, and made a football by extending the ball away from the defender. Again, what happens after that doesn't matter. Both the James and Likely plays should've been TD's from my understanding of the rules.
     
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  15. Formerscribe

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    I'm not sure extending the ball counts as a football move, especially because he had never brought the ball into his body.
     
  16. MojaveDesertPghFan

    MojaveDesertPghFan Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.

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    Karma took hold with the Likely "no catch" in game 1 with Rats. Was the NFL front office just waiting to redeem themselves with the JJ call? And yes it was the rule back then and apparently still is today. Turns out, probably the only reason Steelers have a playoff game next Monday. :dancing:
     
  17. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    His arms were already extended while catching the ball so it doesn't count as a football move. Needed to bring his arms in or take the extra step.
     
  18. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    About a year later the NFL ruled that the Jesse James catch was a TD. Like you said once he broke the goal line the play was immediately over then. He could drop it, kick it or throw it into the stands it didn't matter once he broke the plane it was a TD and that is how the rule stands now.
     
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  19. pczach

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    That's part of what I was saying when the Ravens were bitching about losing the first game against us. If Likely only had two feet down, went to the ground and the ball came out, it would have been incomplete because he didn't survive the ground.

    I guess we all find reasons for rulings to go our way! :smiley1:
     
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