The Mike Tomlin (and general coaching) Complaint Thread

Arians was the Steelers OC, not DC. Dick Lebeau was the DC. Both of those coaches ran their units when Tomlin was just a figurehead, ceremonial HC from 2007-2011. Now that Tomlin chooses his own coordinators and meddles too much with the defense... the results are not surprising.

For the record, I believe Arthur Smith is a good OC. A good OC in a bad situation.

 

160 million dollar (overpaid) defense and ranked 30th. I mean what more can you say. If this isn’t a direct reflection on coaching then I’m not sure what is.

Worst part is, I spent years defending Tomlin to friends, family and even folks on this very board. When you’ve completely lost your most ardent supporters, that’s a tell in and of itself.

 

Your right.i know better than that … I meant Lebeau. But you are spot on with the whole post.

 

The defense sucks and it’s the highest paid. We can suck just as good without Heyward and Watt.

 

I used to support Tomlin as well. My issues started with him over the Canada situation and drafting Kenny Pickett.

 

Oh trust me I know; however, it'll be easier for the fo to seek a true rebuild once they retire instead of retooling.

 

If we can trade Watt I would do that.Not sure what we could get for him with a declining skill set and a massive salary. I would like to see the younger Rooney get more involved. This Rooney is weak and indecisive. His Dad was much better. I think it was the younger Rooney that said it was crazy that we extended Watt and he was right.

I always said Watt was going to digress sooner than Garrett because Watts game was predicated on speed where Garrett is more power and it looks like that is bearing out.

 

As a Steelers fan you gotta be numb at this point. Same **** different season.

 

For what purpose? He should've been fired years ago.

 

Yea, his contract makes it impossible to trade him for a worthwhile return. It is what it is. We'll have him for a season or two more before cutting him loose. Heyward probably retires after this season.

 

Because, I was one of those folks that looked at the bigger picture. Winning records, playoffs, albeit losing as time went on, not to mention taking us to 2 Super Bowls. I just never felt overreacting was productive for my well being. I still feel that way to an extent (under certain circumstances). I think a majority of football fans overreact to their respective teams.

That said, my patience began to gradually wear thin over the years. So yeah, probably the last 3-5 years I’ve been off the Tomlin train. This team desperately needs a change at the top and until then we’ll likely see more of the same.

 

Dang, I must have been sleeping during that 3rd Super Bowl.

 

I think the expiration date may be after a losing season.

 

The real bigger picture was that Tomlin always sucked. He just Barry Switzered his way to 2 (not 3) SBs.

 

1000% agree. Been a diehard fan since ‘72 went to 2-3 games a year, spent good money had a wonderful time, family event! In the last 10 years I wouldn’t pay **** to see this Team, the main factors Tomlin and his lackluster effort overall. Motivational speaker who wears a whistle and has become uninspiring! Zero Xs and Os and worse can’t hire coordinators, was giving the Team he had success with.

Ownership to me is the largest disappointment because they don’t give a rat ass about what this organization has become. Allowing Tomlin to be here for 18 years and counting when he has a set a standard of mediocrity is lazy and unimaginable for a 6X Super Bowl winning organization.

 

Sorry, that was a fat finger typo (2 being right next to the 3)

 

Let's get the record straight. Tomlin-coached Steelers teams made it to TWO Super Bowls, NOT THREE. Steelers won the Super Bowl in 2008 and lost the Super Bowl in 2010 season. Mike Tomlin had absolutely nothing to do with the 2005 Super Bowl victory. He was still coaching the secondary for the Tampa Bay Bucaneers at that time.

 

Man, I can’t catch a break here. It was a fat finger typo. Appreciate you guys pointing it out though. I edited my original post.

 

4-8 in the last 12. When does this become the norm, and not the exception?

 

You had me at perfect execution. I can think of a few candidates.

 

After some research. the Steelers under Tomlin had a 2-9 stretch from the end of 2012 and the beginning of 2013. And a 2-8 stretch from the end of 2020 through a 1-3 start in 2021. So he is not as bad as he has ever been, but he has had losing stretches of 2-6, 4-5, and 2-6 in the last 3 seasons, which some have called these rebuilding years. He has been able to squeeze the turnip a number of times to get to 8-8 or into the playoffs. Hopefully, there is some juice still in the 2025 turnip.