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Pickens over DK this week.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Mashburn, Sep 14, 2025.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Saying they did it for a weak reason is not the same as no reason.
     
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  2. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Can you name another player that was fined over $100K in his first 3 seasons? Maybe this was just his way to force himself off the team? If so, it worked for him.
     
  3. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I could have made a clearer, more consistent argument there. Pickens has been successful in both roles in Dallas, No. 2 and No. 1. Yes, he is getting more opportunities, but he has had to share targets with other quality receivers there. Metcalf doesn't.

    Then there is the other issue, which is Rodgers forcing the ball to Metcalf. That led to two interceptions against the Bengals. Sure, the second one was more the fault of the receiver not catching it cleanly and the officials blowing the call, but it was still a dangerous throw. Rodgers clearly doesn't have much trust in the wide receivers other than Metcalf. The Steelers could have avoided that problem.
     
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  4. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    George was a cancer that needed to go

    Let’s not forget this
     
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  5. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Steelers can pick up another WR before the trade deadline. :shrug:
     
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  6. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    By signing a #2

    Which as we agreed was the second question

    But GP was a cancer and had to go

    Which we agreed was the first question
     
  7. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    They could have mitigated the issue by acquiring a No. 2, but they failed to do that. Tomlin used to handle guys like Pickens. It was a big part of his value as a coach. Now he just gives up and jettisons them out of town. If he could still work with and develop knuckleheads, the Steelers could have had two stud receivers. We just saw how great an offense can be with that in their favor. For whatever reason, Tomlin either cannot or will not do that any more. We may be seeing it bit them in the ass as Pickens takes a big step forward.
     
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  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    WR is not the missing part

    Defense is
     
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  9. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    They at least tried to fix the defense. They weakened the team at receiver.
     
  10. biggbunch68

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    Wasn't Harrison fined 100k for just 1 hit. Goodell and the NFL are fine happy imo
     
  11. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    not in his first 3 seasons...
     
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  12. Tank McGee

    Tank McGee Well-Known Member

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    The lack of adult leadership from the head coach has caused a lot of the "drama" with Pickens and many other players.
     
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  13. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    1. Pickens was on social media constantly complaining not getting the ball? That should be really easy for you to show me several different games of him crying.

    2. Cowboys offense vs steelers offense is not drastic different in giving more in yards. Pickens did Lambs 2024 season, in 2023 with junk..... in fact prescott average was about 25 more yards a game vs wilson. But now with pickens on the cowboys, prescott numbers have gone up to averaging an extra 50 yards more a game vs wilson last year.
     
  14. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!
     
  15. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Thursday night game we needed a legit #2. So what you talking about we don't?

    We've been needing a #2 WR for years now.
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    And once again aka, he thinks they got rid of him for no reason then.

    It’s not just the fans that feel Pickens was a cancer, clearly the Steelers felt he was, clearly the Steelers didnt feel the reasons were blown out of proportion or he’d still be here.
     
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  17. Mashburn

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    You're talking about this year. To which i pointed out that Pickens has helped Dak grow in throwing more yards than he did last year (with only having a few games without Lamb)

    So you're really not helping yourself out like you thought you are.

    And juju? I know you're not talking about Big ben days, with Brown, who was elite compared to Lamb..... brown/Ben did those numbers when nfl had 1 less game. And they still put up more than dak/Lamb best season. And ben/brown had several seasons of being insane elite. 2013 to 2018 was insane with ben/brown.

    Don't ever compare dak/Lamb to Ben/brown ever again.
     
  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    It’s simple enough

    If Pickens would have been a positive asset to the team he would still be here

    The people who saw him every day knew he was not

    Why is that fact so hard to understand
     
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  19. Formerscribe

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    I'm not sure how else to put it. A poor reason and no reason are not the same thing.

    Just because the Steelers thought he wasn't worth putting up with doesn't mean they were right. The Steelers also thought it was right to start Najee Harris every game last season, giving him more snaps and more touches than Jaylen Warren. You strongly disagree with that opinion. Does that make you wrong because you disagree with the team?

    Regarding Pickens, this comes back to what I've been saying for a while. Instead of working with difficult players and developing them, as Tomlin did in the past with Antonio Brown, they seem to be taking the approach of getting rid of those players without even getting proper value, which diminishes the overall talent on the team. What happened? Can Tomlin no longer coach guys who are challenging?
     
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  20. Formerscribe

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    That same coaching staff thought Pickett was their guy going into his second season. They thought Najee Harris deserved to start and get the ball more than Jaylen Warren. They thought this defense was going to be good. They had a great deal of information available to them for those decisions, too. Were they right about all of those things?
     
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  21. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    It amazes me that people who are not in anyway involved with the team on a daily basis still feel they know more about the individuals and coaches than the professional people who are there 24/7/365
     
  22. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Call it whatever your want. It was stupid to let him go for something we would have got regardless. And poor little babies can't handle something they knew they were getting from uga days.

    But the cry baby fans here are a joke as well. Y'all need to go watch some flag football or something.
    - couldn't handle him yanking a cowboy fan
    - couldn't handle him responding to a Bengals corner starting a fight with him
    - couldn't handle a couple offense pass interference (like no one else does it)
    - couldn't handle a gun finger celebration, once
    - couldn't handle showing up late, once
    - couldn't handle a couple blocks (when y'all know not all WR/TE are like that)
    ..... and all of that over 3 seasons. And y'all acting like it was every other game, is so much delusion.
    - all while he wa clutch, had yards and did it with joke QBs except for wilson.

    Are y'all sure y'all were ok on this board when Tomlin tripped up a player?
    Do you think y'all could survive seeing jack Lambert yanking a cowboy? Or destroying a browns out of bounds?
     
  23. Brice

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    I think Aaron Rodgers would have been a complete game changer / Attitude Adjuster for Pickens.

    George Pickens is on the record saying his Dream QB to play for is Aaron Rodgers.
     
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  24. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Steelers haven't really been truly competitive with elite teams in the AFC since 2018. I'm not involved with the Steelers brass or coaching staff... but this is a fact. We can observe this. It happened.
     
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  25. Brice

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    Jaylen Warren was fined 98K in 2023. I remember people talking about his 2 48K fines, because that was more than he made in those 2 games. :)
     

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