Trai Essex

Trai Essex
@TraiDay79


Since Ben, No matter how great a QB was prior to getting to Pitt, they all end up looking exactly the same. Short pass, short pass, deep bomb down the sideline. Rarely attack the middle. Every defense gets excited when they play the Steelers. It’s easy.

No how idea how to link to and from X or Twitter or whatever they call it now.

 

He is 100% right....It started in 2020 this offense and this is just brutal to watch

 

Hard to disagree...feels like the offensive line hasn't allowed much time for a play to develop since at least that long. Probably some correlation there. Now whether that on the players or coaches?

 

Evidence indicates it is more the QB than the Steelers causing that pattern.

Wilson is doing the same (but even worse) with the Giants. The Giants are already turning to Dart for a limited package of plays. Only a matter of time before Wilson gets benched.
Rodgers was doing this with the Jets EXCEPT for games that the Jets got blown out early and they had to chuck it around trying to get back in it. Rodgers was already trending this way at the end in GB as well.
We don't know for Ben R but I suspect that since he retired rather than go somewhere else, he was done as well.

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I meant to add that it seems the common thread between all three (Ben, Wilson, Rodgers) is that their legs go first. Then they don't like to get hit anymore. Creates quick throws as they try to avoid getting hit and no longer have the ability to move around to do that, so they throw quick.

Go watch the Chargers tying TD. Herbert moved to avoid pressure and was able to get a TD out of it. None of the three most recent Steelers QBs can move like that.

 

While I agree with you, I wouldn't want to take some of the hits they are taking either. It's not like a coverage / collapsing pocket sack...it's full on semi truck hits. I'd throw it quick too. LOL

 

Tomlins fault

 

The Steelers have been conservative with the lead too often in the past, especially on the road. It was a problem under Arians and Haley too.

It's either a screen pass or a run up in the middle in the first two downs... When it was 14-14 yesterday, that's when they stopped being conservative in the early downs, but they waited until their backs were against the wall before playing to score!

 

Brady won 6 rings dinking and doinking

 

Suspect? After the elbow injury he looked like a guy that never learned how to throw a deep ball. He was a shell of his former self. It was beyond stupid for Colbert to extend him.

 

True but he could keep the opposing defense honest by throwing deep on occasion.But this is hard to be Tom Brady or Drew Brees

 

I believe this is part of Meyer's overall approach to offensive line play.

 

That is fair and accurate.

Some measurable percentage of those semi-truck hits don't happen with a younger spryer QB back there. Not all, but some.

 

Correct, never really had a guage on what we had with Rudolph. We did the same with Bradshaw in the early 80s that led to skipping on Marino in 83

 

Run up middle, run up middle, throw to the sideline, punt.

Years and years of this, won't throw across the middle, one crossing pattern a game, heaves down sideline, passes behind the line, sweeps with slow RB's, never any WR's open...multiple QB's, multiple co-ordinatos, multiple different personnel...

ONE CONSTANT...

 

I don’t notice these things during games but I was listening to a podcast today where they were saying that opposing defences are playing two high safeties to limit the deep ball to DK and Austin, while leaving 6/7 in the box to bottle up the run depending on the down and distance

This is forcing Rodgers into this dink dunk gameplan that really doesn’t suit the personnel that they have.

 

That’s basically what happened yesterday. Once the Steelers had shown they could run the ball the titans put 7-8 men in the box to stop the run and force short passes. It’s the exact same thing vrabel did to Ben the season we started 11-0. From then on out that’s what the offense faced over and over again. Something similar happened with Wilson as our qb. If I remember correctly the Browns played a zone defense something like 80% of the game and Wilson was shook. The following week was the chiefs and they followed the same blueprint. The eagles took it a step further and played zone for the entire game. By then the word was out we didn’t face much man coverage again. So here we are again and teams are going to stack the box. If Mr darkness retreat can’t stand in the pocket and hit some deep passes it will be ugly

 

And yet he had 56 tds in the two years after that time. Have we had that many tds by the Qbs added together since he retired???

 

Seven

 

Correct. Forgot about his TB win