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Kahn has basically rebuilt the entire roster

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by strummerfan, Apr 30, 2025.

  1. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    All the pieces but the coach is not at this level

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  2. Trafalgar

    Trafalgar Well-Known Member

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    43% and it drops off a cliff after that, there's no sure things, but if you're trrying to draft a franchise QB you need to need to as high as you can be.

    O-line needs help?

    It's had a ton of investment, it's time for that investment to pay off, it's make or break season for Broderick Jones, we've lost a season of evaluation on Fantanu already.
     
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  3. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    And that 43% is misleading

    I read where this is based on the puck being signed to a second contract

    If a first round QB is signed to a backup contract that is still a bust of a pick

    If you look at it from a starter perspective it’s something like a 82% failure/bust
     
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Colbert was awful in his final years. No way to sugarcoat it.

    Khan definitely had his work cut out for him.
     
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  5. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    Does he!


    Five years of whiffs?! Man that is nuts. Here is hoping Khan continues to strike gold.
     
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  6. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Colbert got stuck drafting for need as opposed to bpa in his later years. Golson, jones, burns, Davis….
     
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  7. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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  9. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    #coachingMATTERS

    are we missing b/c we are not developing and coaching well?

    chicken or egg

    Jones was very young and then played at about 80% last year with that elbow issue.

    THIS is make or break for that kid.
     
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  10. Thor

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    It's a bit funny how, for all the moves they've made over the past two offseasons, the offense on paper is nearly the same.

    Pickett/Trubisky --- Fields/Wilson --- Rudolph/Howard

    Harris/Warren --- Harris/Warren --- Johnson/Warren

    Johnson --- Pickens --- Metcalf
    Pickens --- Jefferson --- Woods (or Wilson?)
    Austin III --- Austin III --- Austin III

    Freiermuth --- Freiermuth --- Freiermuth

    Moore Jr. --- Moore, Jr. --- Jones
    Seumalo --- Seumalo --- Seumalo
    Cole --- Frazier --- Frazier
    Daniels --- Daniels/McCormick --- McCormick
    Jones --- Jones --- Fautanu

    WR2 has seen the biggest downgrade, center the biggest upgrade, at least until we see how Johnson, Jones, and Fautanu do this year.

    EDIT: Wilson, too
     
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  11. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    so.......it's about a system as much as players. and we don't have an A caliber QB. Coaching is sub-par, we have no idea where we want to go or want to be.

    Tomlin thinks it is 2006 - you score ~17 pts, kick FGs, don't turn the ball over and rely on the defense. that is NOT the game today.
     
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  12. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    WAAAAH.
     
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  13. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    1st .Cowher was the HC in 2006
    2nd. They averaged 22 points a game. So....:shrug:
     
  14. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Is that what is called 'shuffling the deck chairs'?
     
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  15. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    it was.......2006 (we sucked in 2006, BTW)

    the game has CHANGED

    come on man, come on.

    it is WIDE OPEN offensive attack now, MADE to SCORE LOTS of points.

    Tomlin does not get it

    he never will

    some seem to think this is about the color of the coach, that is so dumb to me.....
     
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  16. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Even in the Killer B's era, Tomlin too often wanted a ball control offense and keep the game close, especially when the Steelers were on the road.To compete with the best teams, it takes more than that!

    Our first quarter offense was mostly below average in the Tomlin era, and our best offense was always when the Steelers were in a 2-minute offense and we had to score in the fourth quarter.

    Under Cowher in 2004 and 2005, the Steelers had a top-3 offense in PPG in the first quarter, but it was after that that the Steelers had a Cowherball offense.But let's be honest, it worked really well, since Cowher was like 110-1-1 in his career when we had a lead of at least 11 points.

    How many times were we leading 10-0 or more in the first quarter in the Tomlin era? Too few times, unfortunately.
     
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  17. HeinzMustard

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    2006 was the Ben preseason, appendectomy/motorcycle crash year. Final year of coach chin.
     
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  18. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    yep - a suck season
     

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