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Risk in high floor/lowceiling QB investment

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by Draftgeek2000, Apr 24, 2025 at 8:41 AM.

  1. Draftgeek2000

    Draftgeek2000 Active Member

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    I believe there is greater risk to the franchise and my fandom in drafting a QB (Shedur) who looks to have a high floor but low ceiling in the first round, much more risk than taking a swing on someone you figure out won't be the guy year one.

    If Sanders is a say #19-25 QB in league after around 10 games and looks to have near peaked already ceiling wise, does anyone think honestly think they'd not extend him into a sizeable pseudo franchise qb contract ?

    What would have you expecting they'd compete?

    To me it projects to a pretty narrow range of outcomes that we'd stay around where we are yearly now, around .500 at 9-8/10-7 very likely to lose to most opponents in the wild card game. That's not progress, it's signing your football future over to purgatory, for possibly another decade. This is way worse to me, than taking a boom or bust QB that will force the team to take swings until they hit on someone you can be a contender with.

    So I'm a way id almost rather take Milroe or Shough at 25, knowing they're forced to keep trying to improve the position. They're not improving the position if Shedur is a top 2 dozen QB or better after yr 3, they're giving him a fat deal, guaranteed. ⬇️no Hope at that point as a fan⬇️ it'll just be time to realistic as a fan and move on.
     
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  2. NDsteelerfan

    NDsteelerfan Well-Known Member

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    sanders is literally what san francisco did a couple of years a go with Lance....and we all see how that worked/ if he wasnt Dions kid, he is hoping to get called on the last day of the draft
     
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  3. Born2Steel

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    But he is Deion's kid. Meaning he is most likely the smartest QB in this draft when it comes to reading defenses. He throws a very accurate ball at all levels, but specifically for the Steelers, intermediate and mof.


    It's not the best situation but it's where we are. We don't pick again till 83. If Sanders is there at 21, I think he is the pick. Maybe I'm just talking myself into it'll be ok. I like Sanders better than I did KP so there's that.
     
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  4. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    BS. that doesn't make him the best defense reading QB. :cool:
     
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  5. SteelersfaninPhilly

    SteelersfaninPhilly Well-Known Member

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    Do any of you trust the current coaching staff to develop the next qb? Whether it be Sanders, Milroe, Dart, or someone we draft in 2026.
     
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  6. NDsteelerfan

    NDsteelerfan Well-Known Member

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    i would rather take nobody, than sanders. just let us have an absolute crap season, get tomlin out of town, and draft high next year...we arent going to the super bowl this year...or next for that matter, so tank it and get some good players. and yes, im being serious
     
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  7. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    I can't trust Tomlin at this point
     
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  8. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    I prefer to have Trubisky as QB for the entire 2025 season and wait for the 2026 draft that have a QB in this draft in the first round!
     
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  9. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    Yes
     
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  10. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Why?
     
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  11. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    One losing season is not going to get Tomlin fired.


    That is a complete loser/defeatist approach to the 2025 season.


    Losing does not make anything better. You put the best team you can on the field each and every season and you try to win each and every season. And I'm serious when I say we have been pretty good at doing just that very thing.
     
  12. Animus

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    My mindset is where could any of these guys be 5 years from now. Getting back into the 2nd for Milroe would be the most ideal scenario.
     
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  13. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    I personally believe Sanders will be extremely good...... there's no way to ignore his record completion percentage, not to mention the fact that a lot of his completions came under duress, which translates very well at the next level.... he's more than athletic enough and has the ability to surgically pick apart a defense, which is something that this offense sorely needs...
    That said, all of this talk about him sliding is just typical, anual manufactured draft day drama....
    There's no way on God's green earth that he falls to 21... he won't get past the Raiders, and we have no chance at him without a major trade up
     
  14. NDsteelerfan

    NDsteelerfan Well-Known Member

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    good..let them have the problems he is going to bring
     
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  15. NDsteelerfan

    NDsteelerfan Well-Known Member

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    well , at this point, winning hasnt made anything better, either.
     
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  16. Steelersfan43

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    If the Steelers want to become a championship caliber team again, they need to take a step back for 1-2 years and be in rebuilding mode....What they've been doing since 2019 isn't working.
     
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  17. Draftgeek2000

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    I'm hopeful they can prioritize and grab an up and coming OC and or QB whisperer once Smith moves on rather than bringing in a pedigree retread. Then we can also actually utilize slots like a normal offense.
     
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  18. Draftgeek2000

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    Absolutely.. 1 bad season where we at least get to evaluate a young/rookie QB is better than 6++ seasons of being stuck with the 20th best QB in league at 40 mill+ per (when they inevitably extend the solid starting QB)
     
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  19. Vox Ferrum

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    Hold it on the super extension...I personally do not want any of these guys in the 1st, but saying they would extend a contract after 10 games????? If taken in the first you have him up to 5 years and the decision on the 5th year option is not made until after the 3rd year. So quit the stupid fear mongering threads, the draft will happen, we will see what happens and either he will get jettisones (if taken) if he sucks, or given a few years to show if he is the guy. relax and get off the stuff that makes you silly.
     
  20. Vox Ferrum

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    On radio today one guy spoke of the thought we are close, aging on the key guys, and need to get it done, so a guy like Aaron is the best shot. My counter is just what you said, quit looking through the smoke you have created and realize what you are, a mediocre component, good enough to somehow sneak into the play offs and die. When you quit trying to get the elusive PO win, and build to compete for a championship then you are on to something. Like Buffalo and Baltimore you may not get there, but you build to be in that competitive window, not bring an old guy in to get you the one elusive win.
     
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  21. Draftgeek2000

    Draftgeek2000 Active Member

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    Oh no, I didn't communicate that part well I guess. I just meant if he looks like a solid/average starter after around 10 games that he'd probably remain at least that for most of his career and that I'm unfortunately confident they'd extend him once committed a few years into a young QB playing at that level. That I fully expect them to accept/extend a middling starter ceiling(if the players young and they've used a 1st), despite most fans wanting more. The franchise+coaches profile makes it extremely likely
     
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