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Players you don't want the Steelers to draft?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Apr 21, 2024.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    What are some of the players that it's possible for the Steelers to draft in the first round that you don't want the Steelers to draft?
     
  2. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

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    Fashanu from Penn State and Fautanu from Washington. I can't get the disaster that was the Ohio State game out of my mind for the first, and all I here about the second is "he can play all over the line." I don't want someone whose best position is left guard, I want either a right tackle (Mims, Latham, Fuaga) or a center (Barton, JPJ).
    I'd be happy with Arnold, Wiggin, Mitchell or DeJean at CB. Don't want McKinstry.
    I'd even accept Thomas if they decide that's the way they want to go, or Bowers if he falls. But damnit don't take Xavier Worthy.
     
  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I’ll stick to the 30 visit list for this answer, and they’re both conditional:

    1 Adonai Mitchell at pick #20. I see him consistently projected as a late 1st round pick. I like the player, but I see better value on the O line and CB than Mitchell at pick #20. If he’s there at #51, then sign me up. My hope is that he was brought in as a guy that they think could fall to the mid 2nd.

    2. Hunter Nourzad as our top drafted center. The other 3 centers we have brought in are all projected to go in the top 40 picks or so. That leads me to believe that the team may see Nourzad as the next best guy and target him in the 3rd or 4th round (maybe over Van Pran). I’ve watched a few his games and I’m not impressed. He’s OK as a run blocker, but I see a disaster as a pass blocker on film. If he’s the best we bring in at center, ouch…. Get ready to duck and cover Russ.
     
  4. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i hope that they don't try to build just to the smith system. that's where nourzad falls. nugent is another from michigan. the whole gang was at michigan. do you think they want to get players that block well in the run game and hope that the play action off of it will be enough to get by with good enough in the pass protection game? :cool:
     
  5. Michael E

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    I really DON'T want a player that has "position flexibility". I hear that as good at multiple positions, but great at none. I want an OC or OT that is projected to be great at player C or OT. Plus, positional flexibility means our moron HC will be able to play multiple OL out of position for a nicely degraded performance.

    LT - flexible draftee that isn't very good at LT
    LG - Dan Moore, because why not play him where he can actually get worse
    C - Daniels, he's done C before, but again, why not move him around to mess with his game the first half of the season
    RG - Semeaulo though he has played both OGs, why not set him back by switching him again.
    RT - Jones, because keeping him at his less comfortable OT spot is The Tomlin way!

    I kid, alot, but I am frustrated. Find a stud OC and play him at OC. Don't find a colleg OT that projects to be ablet to play all over the line only to watch him get pushed back, snap after snap, while snapping the ball at C. Completely different technique at OC than OG/OT and trying to pretend a former OT or OG can handle NFL level DT's while snapping the ball at OC is just...dumb.

    I still say that OC is THE most important OL postion. A bad OC means both OGs have to be pitching in, which means neither can really help the OT next to them. It's a domino/trickle-don effect. Having a bad OC makes OGs and OTs all lesser versions of themselves in the total OL sense. We must get a great/very good OC that is plug-n-play in this draft. In particular, one tht can handle the biggest/strongest NT/DTs out there while RARELY needing help from OGs. The abilty to pull would be GREAT, but not sur if OC uses the OC to pull. IF not, probably low on the checklist.
     
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  6. Ender

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    Guyton
     
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  7. CK 13

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    Mims. I just have a bad feeling. He only played 7 games, started 6 in 2023 as a right tackle. Other then that he was a reserve O Lineman in 2021 and 2022.
     
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  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Any Wr in the 1st round
     
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  9. Vox Ferrum

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    This..I have no idea how they are really thinking, but after the last several years the C position is something we need to put a priority on, at 20 it seems to high, at 51 most of the projected plug and play guys are predicated to be gone. I just hope this is an area they do not disregard and we have yet another year of misery in the middle.
     
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  10. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    But CB in any round is acceptable for you, lol?
     
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  11. Born2Steel

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    Mims - He only played a half season of college ball. He has all the physical tools to be successful. His comments that he didn't think his limited number of snaps was a big deal in regards to playing in the NFL is a redflag to me as well. You can get by on raw, natural talent all the way up through college for some. But you must have the work ethic to succeed in the NFL.

    Any WR unless it's a trade for an established NFL WR1(Aiyuk/Jefferson).

    No RBs or TEs.
     
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  12. Vox Ferrum

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    It's frustrating, the old line doing the same thing over again, then again, and yet possible again? 20 may seem high for the 2 best C prospects, but they are likely to go before 51. If the draft starts a frenzy in some position find a trade down partner for a few spots and grab you C, but whatever they do make this a priority.
     
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  13. Born2Steel

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    I'm just curious how many Center prospects you guys expect to get drafted before pick 51. Before pick 84.
     
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  14. Steel_Elvis

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    I see a few folks saying they don’t want Mims. I kind of agree because of the injury history and because I watched games where he was replaced for a series and then came back, which makes me wonder about his stamina. However, what little tape there is on him shows an absolute top tier RT prospect. It’s not just his measureables, it’s his tape. Three years from now he can be anywhere from the best RT in the league to out of the league completely. I don’t want him at #20, but if we take him I sure as hell hope our front office has enough inside info to be pretty sure that the concerns are unfounded.
     
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  15. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    3 is my answer to both. I think there’s a chance that the 4th one goes in the 70’s.
     
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  16. Born2Steel

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    Too much 'Mike Adams' about Mims for me. 32 games over 4 seasons at OSU. Just never had the work ethic to succeed in the NFL.
     
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  17. steelersrule6

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    If Marvin Harrison Jr or Nabers, and Odunze dropped to #20 you draft them.
     
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  18. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Two before 51
     
  19. mcam

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    No one particular but don't draft a QB later in the draft for the sake of drafting a warm body to fill a roster spot. If someone doesn't really have a chance to at least exist as a backup it's a wasted pick with a team full of holes
     
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  20. Brice

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    As long as Pat Meyer is the O-Line coach the Steelers have no business taking on projects like Mims, only 8 games experience, or Barton who has never played center.

    Never seeing where Pat Meyer had signed his extension this year, I was always holding out hope that the Steelers were going to allow Arthur Smith to upgrade the O-Line coaching staff this offseason.

    There was the fact that both Green and Dotson improved their game after leaving Pittsburgh last year, and to me it looked like both Chucks and Mason Cole actually got worse last year playing for Pat Meyer. Not a clue why nobody held Pat Meyer accountable for his performance last year.

    That is why I like Frazier in the 2nd, because he has the years of experience playing center to be able to completely ignore the B.S. that is comping out of Pat Meyer's mouth. Pat Meyer and Matt Canada were the perfect match for the Dumpster Fire offense they created last year.
     
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  21. Steelersfan43

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    Why are you surprised the Steelers kept Meyer for another year???

    This is the same team that decided to keep Matt Canada for a 3rd year as OC, the only team in the NFL that would have done that
     
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  22. james weyandt

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    no qb no rb no te no losers no players with little hands no divas no players who can't play in bad weather.
     
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  23. CK 13

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    I agree. I was hoping when Smith came in he would have brought in his own O Line coach. Meyer just doesn't move the needle.
     
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  24. steelersrock151

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    If you have to lie to prove your point, your point is worthless. Barton played six games as center as a freshman, not he "has never played center". Which is exactly six less games than JPJ played at center. And Mims has 8 games as a starter, but he has played in 29 games for the 2x National Champions.
     
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  25. S.T.D

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    LoL. LoL. :lolol:
    Actually this year. I don't see any that maybe had, or should be taken past the 3rd....of course I could be incorrect. We....none of us know how the draft may unfold. Let's just hope whomever we pick in the draft will be great contributors.....for the Steelers....for many, many many years.
     
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