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Bo Nix

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by francobettis, Jan 24, 2024.

  1. francobettis

    francobettis Well-Known Member

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    If Bo Nix is available ay #20 in the 1st round, should the Steelers grab him? I’ve seen couple of his game and he looks really good.
     
  2. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

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    No. If he’s available at 51, maybe. But he’s not a first round talent.
     
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  3. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    No.. another Kenny Pickett
     
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  4. Lizard72

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    He's basically the same except with a little better physical traits. 6 years of eligibility will get you good play.
     
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  5. Rel

    Rel Well-Known Member

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    People are going to have to get used to the older ages of quarterbacks long term. With the transfer portal, etc...except for rare talents, more and more QB's will play extra years.
     
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  6. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    The less talented qbs
     
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  7. Brice

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    I want my Center in the 2nd round.

    Now if Nix is still on the board in the 3rd round, then the Steelers can go the Mason Rudolph route, and draft him in the 3rd round and tell everyone that they had a 1st round grade on him. :)
     
  8. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    That's a NO on BO for me. Without good QB coaching and strong OC, Bo has struggled and Pitt is not known for QB or offensive coaching prowess.
     
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  9. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    That profile picture reminds me of the Hangover for some reason
     
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  10. Rollers

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    He has been performing poorly at the all star game. Looks like his draft position is falling
     
  11. TGH

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    It's difficult for me to get hyped about a 6-2 QB. I endorse Bo Nix and Caleb Williams as top 10 picks, just not for us.
    I'd go for Milton at 20. Get rid of Kenny, give reins to Mason.
     
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  12. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Yes I was reading that on CBS Sports recap of the Senior Bowl practices. In their words he started out OK but then fell off the cliff as the week went on.
     
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  13. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Milton will be intriguing to some GM who falls in love with his arm. He threw one pass 88 yards in practice and was clocked on another pass at 76 mph. I can't imagine catching a pass at that speed, you would think that it would tear the skin off of your hands.
     
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  14. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Tua's younger brother Tulia is looking pretty good in the Shrine Bowl tonight. He hit a deep pass and ran for another TD. He is from Maryland so maybe a late round pick for the Steelers.
     
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  15. Lizard72

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    He’s so damn short though. Shorter than Tua. Those guys almost always need timing routes and rolling out to create passing lanes.
     
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  16. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I believe the Steelers will bring in a QB to try to develop along with KFP and whoever
    they sign in FA's. The kid from Tulane maybe in the right slot where we may choose one.
     
  17. TGH

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    I would not be worried about that. I think Bo Nix is clearly worthy of a 1st round pick . My only problem for the Steelers is that he is 6-2.
     
  18. Vox Ferrum

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    There is no extra years. You have 5 years for 4 years of play, the transfer portal does not extend that, nor do you have to sit out a year anymore. The red shirt gives you that extra year. How os many have been older is Covid did cause an exemption for the players involved during that period, but that is now over.
     
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  19. SGSteeler

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    I've seen you hype up Milton a few times now. What exactly about him has you going for him? Is it just the huge arm talent? I haven't seen him listed in the top 200 prospects in the draft anywhere, so interested in what makes you like him at 20.
     
  20. Rel

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    I don't think I explained what I meant correctly, with the COVID extensions, we will be dealing with older college players through the 2027 draft. People will need to get used to it.

    The transfer portal also extends the age of NFL drafted players as more and more of them are going the full 4-5 years in college. It's a smart thing to do, to finish the degree, as the average NFL career is just over 3 years.

    On a side note, more and more players that get an early payday should consider retiring from the NFL before 30, save their health.
     
  21. Vox Ferrum

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    I could not find any reliable data, but the extension you are talking about really do not make much sense. The covid extention only was in affect for one year, and the rules actually were placed for different situations and sports. 27 seems a reach, but even so the number NCAA players who actually get drafted are minimal to the numbers who play. So while there may be a number of guys who are older, that number has been and will continue to be small.

    Can you cite anywhere the stats of the transfer portal where 'more and more' of them are going the full 4-5 years. While it may be true, again the stats really would not change that much. Most players drafted are 4 year players, players coming out early (after 3 years) is a more recent trend (recent being 2 decades ?), and those guys have often been mislead by agents and egos. Coming out thinking they would be high picks, only to be picked in lower rounds or not at all. That is why there has been a collaboration between different parties to tell the realistic round the individual is graded in before they declare. IDK what committee is in charge of that, or who all is involved, but it helps the college guy make a better determination to declare or not.

    There has at times been the outliar, a player who starts late at college, or who even gets the time in and declares early and young (JuJu come to mind), but for the most part its pretty going to be the same,
     
  22. Rollers

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    There is no reason to like him at 20 at all. I don't think there will be a franchise guy available at 20. Milton is certainly not the answer
     
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  23. TGH

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    Milton had a good senior year as far as throwing interception, that was one elite performance statistic he had. Quarterbacks who have performed at an elite level in one of the categories TD, ints, sacks, can be considered first round. Especially if they have elite physical traits, and Milton has elite physical traits. (sacks indicate decisiveness, ints indicate decision making, and TDs indicate ability to score. All are critical.)

    Here is the list of draftees who have had statistically elite performances in senior year in one of the categories: Bo Nix (ints, TDs), Caleb Williams (Ints), Jason Brown (ints), Jayden Daniels (ints, TDs), JJ McCarthy (ints), Joe Milton (ints), Jordan Travis (ints), Tanner Mordecai (ints). That's the list out of 32-33 prospects this year.
    Bo Nix, Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, and McCarthy are talked as first round quarterbacks.
    What separates Milton from Jason Brown, Jordan Travis, Tanner Mordecai? Elite physical traits for the NFL. And that puts him in the first round.
    Milton had 65% completion percentage which is okay, it is not negative. He did not take a lot of sacks, that is a positive. The negative is that he did not score enough, he had trouble scoring TDs, but that negative is offset by the fact that he did not throw picks and made good decisions.
     
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  24. steelersrule6

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    Milton has a strong arm, but he's not accurate.
     
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  25. SGSteeler

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    I think his biggest obstacle will be how he transitions to the NFL above the neck (as it is for every QB). Tennessee had him working 1 read patterns all the time. Milton very well might be an answer long term, he is probably considered a huge project in terms of reading NFL defenses. I know it only takes one team to love him (and his arm will probably see him drafted earlier than expected), but I'd be pretty surprised to see him go in the first.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts tho. I can at least see where you're coming from even if I don't 100 percent agree.
     

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