Ryan Clark on the steelers

sad

 

He's right. All of the other franchises with 3 or more SBs have gone up and down. That's the nature of sports, every dog has days. The Steelers are no exception to this rule.

GB, Frisco, Cowgirls had theirs and the Patriots are getting ready to go through it after their decades of success with Brady. The Steelers have some good pieces in places but it should be clear that they are in semi-rebuild mode now.

 

Hell we went 15 years before we got to the 5th SB (and lost), another decade before winning, had a near dynasty run (2 SB wins 1 loss in 5 years), and now 13 years with not much. I don't think we are living on past success, but have settled in a mediocrity of perpetual 'semi-rebuild'. We think we are better than we are, but get the same results. The talk of MT 'fixing that problem" might be correct, but when every LB you signed is injured and you are relying on PS and guys coming out of retirement to solve it (just one issue) then you are in a vast dream land.

I agree they have some good pieces, and I contend Noll actually had put together some good pieces at his end. It took a new HC to take those pieces and take them forward. When Cowher left same can be said, now it's time for a new person to take those pieces in a new direction.

 

Good points and we'll see where things go.

 

RC is spot on. There was an undercurrent for years where players were happy to come here. Now, it's hard to say for sure, but I think this has become a mediocre destination to draw a paycheck.

 

Oh the drama! The Steelers may not be able to "live off the fact that there's six lombardi trophies" but the media sure does. Big eyeroll.

 

I honestly do not know what to expect, no one really knows art's mind in all this, but when media starts questioning then it is far more than just fans grumbling. I don't feel that alone would move him, and one game does not show the story, but look at how this team has often looked and performed in recent years, sometimes it takes that one game to bring the blinders off. A report from yesterday (who knows if it is true) was about Belichek bringing back O'brien, but overseeing and directing nearly everything done on O. If you are excercising that much control and everything is a mess, then you start by removing the control problem.

 

maybe full blown re-build, as Kenny does not appear to be the next guy. With the game today, you have to have GREAT COACHING and a somewhat capable QB. We don't have either.


When things were fading with Ben, I had said that we would look back years later and call them The Wasted Years (thank you Iron Maiden for the title.....)

Tomlin and Co. blew it.

We were close - should have been MUCH CLOSER with all that talent - and underachieved for years.

 

When that gets old they have the 'never had a losing season' line. But to be honest it beats talking about Jerry Jones lol.

 

No doubt an easy paycheck and on top of that the players aren't put on a strict daily time schedule to complete routine tasks. Just get it done at some point during the day before going home. Sounds like my kind of job.

 

There is not a lot wrong with the Steelers roster if you dropped a good QB in there. Below par QB play is holding them back, their Redzone passing offence is historically bad, and they are winning in spite of this.

Very hard to fix the QB position without a high draft pick unless you get insanely lucky however

 

Take away every injury on the green dot players, and You are 100% correct.

 

I mean..
Who doesn't keep trophies "In the Staircase"

 

No doubt the QB play has been subpar. I would argue though that the bigger issue has been the Oline for the last three years. Instead of drafting oline, the team didn't draft a lineman in the first two rounds for 3 years in a row, even as Pouncey, Decastro and Villenueva left. Even now, you have terrible LT and C, two mediocre guards and a rookie RT that hopefully will be good. Fix the Oline and you will fix the QB issue.

 

The Oline has been a problem but it’s a problem for a lot of teams. Very few NFL teams have five good starters or even two good, dependable tackles.

That said, even with perfect pass protection I think this Kenny led offence would still be struggling. A good composed QB who can read defences and deal with pressure can hide a lot of issues within an offence.

 

Its pretty hard to read defenses when your always scrambling for your life, I am not making excuses for Kenny, but maybe he never makes it through his progressions because he is gun shy or has "learned" that this is all he will have time to do. Also maybe just maybe, he pre-determines his target pre snap because of what he thinks he is reading from the defense. Neither case is ideal, but I do agree that if we can fix the OC, the OL and the HC, we may have a serviceable QB in Kenny. I do think the odds are against him because the line sucks and the coaching sucks.

 

Tomlin needs to stop referring to "the standard". It's an annoying reminder at this point.

 

The franchise qb those teams were built around was 34td-28int in the playoffs. That and bad luck injuries are why they “underachieved”.

How was Tomlin responsible for Ben’s underperformances in the playoffs? If you think that those killer b era teams that were built around Ben underachieved, then why don’t you blame Ben for “blowing it”?

 

Can't disagree. Better QB play makes for a better offense. Of course, better Oline play makes for a better offense too. When I look at last year and this year, 29 games in all, there hasn't been one exceptional game for either QB that has started. That's hard to do. You would think there would be a few games where the QB lit it up. There's plenty of blame to go around, but I'm going with the Oline first. Fully understand those that blame the QBs first.

 

I think from 1980 to 1990 we made the Playoffs 4 times. 2011 to 2020 6 times. 2021 - 2030 could get ugly.

 

But KSP does not seem to adjust his progression

If the play in the huddle is a swing pass to the RB and when they line up Pickens is one on one then right then you change your progression to start with Pickens

Ben was pointing out KSP does not do this

 

He was most likely coached to do it that way. I don't think the coaches allowed Kenny to change progressions. Canada wouldn't even listen to suggestions from other coaches. He just runs the plays they way they are drawn up in the playbook. Hopefully Pickett is allowed to get to that point and he is able to diagnose everything pre-snap to know he has the matchup he wants.

 

Sooooo....understand. Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years.

 

Need to throw in a quality O line. Good QB running for his life will only go so far.