Rumors of Kyler Murray to Steelers?

Kyler Murray alone isn't solving the Steelers Offensive Woes. Kenny Pickett, even with his regression, isn't the main contributing explanation either. Issue stems from an overall lack of cohesion overall; Matt Canada being the tip of the spear.


There is enough evidence to seriously question whether or not Kenny is the guy moving forward. There isn't enough evidence to conclude that the Steelers need to "Kick Out Kenny" like so many want. Getting rid of Canada first is but a lengthy list of Off Season Objectives for the 2024 Steelers.


Finding out if Kenny really is or isn't it will be the focus in 2024. As for 2023?! Hell, finishing on a high note needs to be the entire Offenses top priority.

 

If both Murray and Canada are somehow with the team next year then there will be two people who refuses to watch game film

 

Remember the rumor the Steelers were the favorite to trade for Chase Young , Arizona overpaid for Murray, no thanks.

 

We should get a QB who can run really fast, LOL.

Actually, maybe not a bad idea. Bring that guy in for trick run plays sometimes.

 

The last thing we need is a midget QB that's always hurt

 

What a joke, you guys believe these writers?

 

Or know what their watching.

 

Kyler Murray.
I have no idea what Arizona was thinking. The troll joins the group of dubious honor - worst 1st draft picks.
I despise Murray. He was good in a college system and that's all.

The thought of Canada and Murray in the same system.... wait.... my mind just smoked.
It would be awful

 

that would continue the lost decade.....

 

maybe - but we can do better than them all, we have failed miserably for YEARS at backup QB

 

there are not 32 joe Burrows or Mahomes, but yes you need A QB that can be consistently good. IDK if KP is the guy, but another year on the rookie deal before having to decide on the 5th year option is worth the wait (and perhaps getting a high quality if one drops in the draft rd 2). If you get Murray you get everything that comes with it, huge CAP hit, how many picks it costs, and the injury potential already shown, plus (warranted or not) the drama he brings. No doubt he is a good and exciting player, but that cost is very high.

 

I'm not saying you are wrong, but getting and keeping a good back up is not an easy task. Batch was not a great QB, was a good and competent guy, who came home and built a nice life. If you draft a guy who is decent, other teams are going to offer more when the time comes to see if he could be their guy, or be a back up for a young guy they are developing. It's easy to say we should have got so and so, but the CAP still generates what you are able to pay. Trevor Simmon is still on a roster, that shows QB depth is sparce.

 

This is a talking point and nothing more. Anyone that's followed the Steelers for any amount of time knows full well they'd never go down this rabbit hole. If he is on the block, someone will. It just won't be the Steelers. I'm not saying Murray couldn't help a team. His cost is too high for what he is in my opinion.

These sports journalists whether real or imagined come up with all manner of outrageous "headlines" to discuss. This is another example.

 

Could you imagine Murray asking Canada for advice in playing Madden?

 

you never draft a guy to be your backup QB - that is part of where Tomlin and Co have failed miserably. you want a veteran, like Batch. Washed out as a starter. Mitch could have been that guy, but he really does suck.

Garrapolo might be that guy soon. Dobbs could be that guy. He could be.

Better, a 30 yr old journeyman, been a starter for 5+ years than a draft pick, that is for SURE!

 

I would tend to agree, but finding that vet who can consistently perform is often a shot in the dark. QB's often come into a game and play well, only to go back to the reason they failed as a starter. and while you do not draft for a back up, there has been talk in the past about failing to develop young QB's, but again that is a demonstration in futility because after a 3 or 4 year window they can go to greener pasture. Mike White is a guy who stuck with it, likely knows he has reached his limit on how far he will go, but still turned it into 2 year 4.5 guarantee, with a possible 8 mill total. That's not a bad cap number, but basically what a team pays..some more, some less for journeymen.

 

Not sure what you mean here. In general, option bonuses go with the player to his new team because there are triggers for them to be earned (i.e., still a member of the roster, worked out with the rest of the team in the offseason, etc.). These differ from signing bonus prorations which represent money that has already been paid to the player for signing the contract.

That said though, your calculations all look good to me. You allocated Murray's workout and per game bonuses in 2024, in addition to his future roster bonuses, to the club hypothetically trading for him. As you mention, it offers a prospective trade partner cap flexibility since they wouldn't be burdened with the signing bonus prorations, and should they want to keep him and mitigate the cap hit from his larger base salary years they could convert money there, or the roster/workout/per-game bonuses, to signing bonus and extend the contract. Though I'd expect Murray's camp would want a restructure with any trade (if not already included somewhere in the current framework) since it would eliminate the bulk of guarantees/commitment away after the $35M in 2024.

 

There was a member who had Malik Willis is the answer in his signature. I never heard of the guy until then so I looked him up. I too thought he could be a possible contender to Ben's throne but as of now I'll take Pickett. Still early in both players career.

 

Kyler Murray is 1 year older than Kenny Pickett

 

Fuzzy memory but I think Fran's great scrambling ability was his biggest asset. He made a lot of throws on the run so he could see downfield.

 

He has had more time in the NFL to show what he is, and that is a gifted but inconsistent quarterback who struggles to stay healthy. No way is he worth the draft capital and cap hit.

 

Trading for Kyler would be the most un-Steeler move of all time. Give up a high pick, take on a huge salary and admit after only 2 yrs that the QB drafted in Round #1 was a flop. Even if it as a a good football move - and it’s not- organizational arrogance would preclude it.

 

I think it bears mentioning that Murray was relatively healthy until 2022. He played all of 2019 and '20 and half of 2021 until missing three games with an ankle injury. In 2022 he missed two games (can't recall the specific injury) just before tearing the ACL.

That said, his diminutive size for the position has always been a concern, whether over potential health or performance issues in the NFL. And I agree that he would be too much risk for the price tag he carries.

 

A nice joke. I feel Pickett will get 2 more years with a new offensive coordinator.