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After 20 nfl games Pickett

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by strummerfan, Oct 30, 2023.

  1. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    No, 4th qtr come backs aren't great. I go through 2x as many drinks and my blood pressure skyrockets. How about we just go into the 4th qtr with a comfortable lead for a change and keep the vitals within tolerance? JK
     
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  2. GoldBurgh

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    They could have fired Canada at the bye and brought in Leftwich and told him it was a trial until the end of the year. He would have taken that.
     
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  3. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Yea he missed DJ on that first pass. Cmon man your killing me.
     
  4. Arch Stanton

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    If Leftwich is so great, why did Tampa Bay let him go? It sure doesn't seem like any team is in a hurry to hire him
     
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  5. Formerscribe

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    I'm not sure an interim coordinator would have fixed things enough to give Picket that much better of an opportunity to succeed. Canada needed to go this past offseason. Keeping him was a disastrous decision.
     
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  6. Formerscribe

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    The ball went off Johnson's hands. It wasn't perfect, but it a ball the receiver should catch.
     
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  7. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. There are too many problems on offense to spend another high pick on a quarterback in 2024.
     
  8. SteelReal

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    I know it's going to be brought up if it hasn't already. If things continue as is do the Steelers make a play for Cousins next year assuming a 100% torn Achilles recovery??
     
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  9. Steel Acorn

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    Football is the ultimate team game and isolating blame on any one person is fraught with misinterpretation. Eleven guys on offense, plus coaches, coordinators, and staff, need to be working in sync or things don't go as planned. QB and receiver not on the same page. Coordinator not calling effective plays. Linemen not blocking the right guy or having poor technique. Receivers not having the right cleats. QB not reading the defensive scheme. Running back with limited vision. One or two of those and you might have success. String them together and you ain't scoring much.

    And lest we forget, Ben had some stinker games even after 10 years as a pro and often made "Rookie" mistakes. Remember "Bad Ben" games? Sure, we are still waiting for "Good Ken" games, but he is saddled with an offensive coordinator that has a poor track record, and a poor offensive line. And he may not be "the guy"

    There's still a chance they can put all the puzzle pieces together on occasion (4th quarter?), but not likely to be consistent. Hopefully consistent enough to win some more games.
     
  10. GoldBurgh

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    that’s why you only guarantee him the end of the year. No strings attached
     
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  11. SteelerGlenn

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    I don't know if Pickett is the future or not. How could anyone reasonably evaluate the guy in this pathetic offense? No one has looked good in since Canada has been here.
     
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  12. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe, maybe not. One thing is for sure, every single Steelers fan including yourself, should really be hoping that you're wrong. If you're right, it's going to set this organization back years.
    It really doesn't matter what us fans think they should do, the organization is going to do what they feel is best for the team. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that knowing what I know about this organization, they are not going to give up on their first round pick after 2 seasons. Whether they should have taken him in the first place or not is irrelevant.
    If the team feels that Canada was the major issue, they will more than likely part ways and give Pickett the offseason and the next season to prove it was Canada all along. Otherwise, they're looking at trying to pick another QB in the next draft while ignoring all of the other holes this team has.
    Unless the team decides to go after a proven vet in the offseason and fill holes in the draft, I just can't see them moving on from Pickett after 2 seasons. Whether the fans want them to or not.
     
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  13. Trafalgar

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    Getting rid of Pickett before Canda is totally assinine. We have to get rid this idiot and very soon. He is not qualified to be an NFL OC. He will never get hired anywhere in the NFL again.

    IMO to get DEFINITIVE answer on KP, we need a whole season under a real OC, the tradegy of this is of course that we have just thrown 3 years away if he isn't. So that's most of his cheap years wasted...

    This is mismangement and complacency on an epic scale and its been going on for years, HC feels no heat to perform, the org wants to play happy families and and doesn't weant to hurt anyone's fee fee's and won't go out an hired real cocaches because cheap/Tomlin wants minions that don't threaten his feifdom.

    This team has been left behind, and the league has moved on.
     
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  14. SteelerGlenn

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    I don't understand why some are almost gloating that Pickett is struggling. I'm hoping that he is the answer at QB for us for years to come. If he's not he's not. Just seems like another example of someone making a bold prediction and fighting at all costs to be right instead of wanting what is best for the team.
     
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  15. Wardismvp

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    It was right on the money that pass, DJ has to make that catch, things may have been so much different.
     
  16. Formerscribe

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    How does that help? He would be 36 years old coming off a major injury.
     
  17. strummerfan

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    I want every draftee and signee to succeed here. With that being said there’s been no year two jump with picket and the plays have been there to make. We can argue all day of dj should have caught the first pass or if picket should have made a better throw. What about the other two opportunities picket blew in the first half? Under thrown to a wide open pickens and thrown behind dj for a walk in touchdown. We see the same crap from picket week in and week out. Want a better run game then force teams to respect the passing game. It’s painfully obvious opponents don’t think picket can beat them with the pass. Unfortunately they’ve been right more often than not.
     
  18. strummerfan

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    I don’t see how anyone can watch Steelers games and not see Picket is a significant part of the problem
     
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  19. Ytownsteeler

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    I see a very below average qb who has some nice 4th quarter comeback but stinks the other three. Sad part is he is better than mitch t. The other qb on the roster. Might as well start mason r or call duck back . They cant suck as much as mitch does. Will always be mediocre at best with the OC and QB room.
     
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  20. Pappy928

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    At this point what is the angle to argue he isn't the 'Guy'? OK, say he isn't. Then what do you want? Mitch? Mason? Trade? You can't trade for the answer right now and what team is going to give it up. Watson? Wilson? No thanks. Browns and Denver will be in pain from those contracts for years.

    My suggestion is for OP and a few others to just add "Kenny isn't it" to your signature tag.
     
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  21. METALMAN_68

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    Nothing you're saying is wrong but again, I simply don't see them spending another high draft pick this soon when there's so many holes at other positions.
     
  22. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    I agree, especially when he isn't the first QB to take a little longer than expected to "get it".
     
  23. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    I will push back on the "pass game opening up the run" thought process a bit. Yes that can work but how do you explain Bens success his first year? I don't think many defenses were afraid of him tossing the ball all over the yard. That offense was built on a strong offensive line and a good run game. It also asked Ben to make plays here and there to extend drives. That is something Pickett has shown he can do as well.
    The team thought they were trying to build a strong offensive line in the offseason but then struggled to run the ball early in games and didn't commit to it. In the second half against the Rams, you saw a commitment to the run and as that started to get warmed up, Pickett looked more comfortable in the pocket.
    You will never be able to convince me that this team has done everything in their power to help this young quarterback out. They have not given him a solid offensive line, a solid run game, or a competent play caller. I will never argue with you about Pickett sucking a$$ for the better part of this season but if you disagree with any of those three points, then you're not trying to see the whole picture.
     
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  24. Frost33

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    It blows my mind how many people want to put the blame squarely on DJ for that play. He 100% should have caught that ball, but if Pickett throws a decent ball, he doesn't have to stop and jump for it. Even if he catches that ball, he's at the 50. Hit him on the run, as a good NFL QB would and it's an easy 6.

    Canada is garbage, I think we all agree there. What isn't clear is how bad Pickett is, but I think it's pretty clear that he is REALLY bad. A huge reason I believe this is watching the other team's defensive plan each week. Teams are not afraid of him throwing deep so they put 8-10 men within 5-7 yards of the LOS. This plays hell on trying to run the ball, and also plays hell on throwing short passes, which is all Pickett can throw. He lacks deep ball accuracy and touch, something QBs that wear gloves ALWAYS lack. When you can't feel the ball, you can't throw with the touch and accuracy needed on deeper throws. It's a reason you don't see MLB players wearing gloves in the outfield when it's cold
     
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  25. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    is everything else the same? Has the game changed whatsoever in the last nearly two decades?
     

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