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Gap Between Super Bowl Winning QBs

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by burghfan58, Feb 15, 2023.

  1. FootballAnalyst98

    FootballAnalyst98 Well-Known Member

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    That's not a slight on him. There's only 4 current starting qbs with rings.
     
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  2. FootballAnalyst98

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  3. Formerscribe

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    Again, this is all skewed by one great playoff run. You can repackage it any way you like, but that fact remains. Flacco was a decent quarterback who went on a great run, which completely destroys your argument.
     
  4. FootballAnalyst98

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    So why does he have more playoff wins than Eli manning whi had two great "runs" if this 1 "run" Flacco had defines everything listed above.
     
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  5. Formerscribe

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    His teams won those games. Again, you have this foolish notion that football games are one-on-one contests between the quarterbacks. If you can ever get past that, you might even post something of value.

    That said, you posted a reference to his statistics, which are skewed by that one run in the playoffs.
     
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  6. FootballAnalyst98

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    Then brady wouldn't be the goat almost universally. It's several qbs that have played the postion better than him but he has the most rings and that's what literally is the defining achievement that sprites him from everyone else. You think if mahomes had no rings currently but burrow was the one with rings they wouldn't call burrow better?
     
  7. Formerscribe

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    There is more to Brady's resume than rings. He has a combination of statistics, rings, and signature moments.

    Mahomes has a similar combination, though a relatively early version of what Brady has going for him.

    I love that you are so desperate to push your ridiculous claim that you are actually trying to support an argument that Joe Flacco was an elite quarterback.

    Flacco and Eli Manning were good, not great quarterbacks, yet their teams were able to win Super Bowls with them at quarterback. They are among the many pieces of evidence that prove your theory wrong. Nick Foles is another. Hell, even Brady serves that purpose. He was not at all elite when the Patriots won their first Super Bowl with him at quarterback.
     
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  8. FootballAnalyst98

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    I can pull up several articles, videos, etc.. of people calling brady the goat after the atlanta superbowl. That was before brady held any all time statistics like he has now such as most tds, pass yds, etc.. . So no it wasn't about that. It's because he won more than anyone.

    Never said Flacco was an elite qb. I said he was elite in the playoffs. Its not soem grasp pulled ou thre aor dwparqt eclaom lol i can show you articles with people calling flacco an elite qb IN THE PLAYOFFS. Two different things. Also Eli manning is going to have a bust in canton.

    And is it still 2001? Does the nfl have the same rules they had in 2001 when brady won his first sb? Or has the rules changed to basically favor the offenses and handicap defenses?
     
  9. Formerscribe

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    Please stop embarrassing yourself like this. That was the end of Brady's third league MVP season. It was also the third year in which he had led the league in passing yards and a few seasons after the third time he led in touchdowns. Those are just a few of the statistical accomplishments he had by then to help support people claiming he was the best quarterback in NFL history. He didn't have all the records he has now, but he did have great statistics to go with his team's victories.

    Flacco is not elite in the playoffs. He had one elite run that skews his career playoff statistics. I'm sure you can find articles stating all sorts of things, especially given that a plagiarist like you likely has no standards regarding what is a valid source.

    That said, even claiming that a quarterback who is not elite somehow magically becomes elite in the playoffs destroys your claims regarding the need to have an elite quarterback to win the Super Bowl. They don't. By your own admission, Flacco is not an elite quarterback. Neither is Foles.
     
  10. jeh1856

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    He will be the first to tell you he doesn’t care if he fails

    Sad very sad
     
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  11. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    And the rest of us can think on our own
     
  12. Formerscribe

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    True, but I don't mock him for posting links to articles and videos to back up his claims. I mock him for the time she has tried to pass off the words from those articles or videos as his own.
     
  13. FootballAnalyst98

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    That doesn't matter
     
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  14. FootballAnalyst98

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    Lol WRONG. He didn't win the mvp the falcons year dumb****. He won it the next yr when they lost to Philly you dumbass. He didn't lead the nfl in passing yards either that yr when they played atlanta stupid ass. Maybe you should be a "plagirist" since your retarded ass can't even decipher the correct years something happened idiotic ****. Maybe your slow ass should be the one regurgitating what others say cause your simple ass couldnt even get that right. All this reading and correcting you try to do and you say stupid **** like that and confidently tried to pass it off as facts? Get your fraudulent ass on.

    It was the rings. Because stats and accomplishments individually peyton had far more at the time and he still has far more mvps, all pros, has led in passer rating and completion percentage which brady never did, and still had the best single season in nfl history for a qb. Hell mahomes is already one mvp behind brady. It's the rings that people consider him the goat. Eye test, reg season, and individual accolades aren't why. You even have people that right now say mahomes is better than brady ever was far as a player but of course he doesn't have the rings.

    Flacco was good for more than that yr. He was good every yr in the playoffs outside the first 2 years and they should have beaten NE in 2011 and 2014.
     
  15. Formerscribe

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    Yup. I mixed the years up. My mistake. Unlike you, I can admit my mistakes, like your false claim that it was just the rings and your ridiculous implication that it was only that one Super Bowl that made people start to talk about Brady as the greatest of all time. It was and is the entire resume, the statistics and the rings. That is one of the many things you still don't understand.

    Of course, that's also a guy nobody thought did anything special when he came out of Michigan, which is yet another massive hole in your overall argument.

    Give Mahomes time. If he keeps doing what he is doing, he will surpass Brady, and it won't just be the rings. It will be the entire resume.

    That is how you handle being wrong, rather than ranting like a child as you just did.
     
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  16. Formerscribe

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    Let's try this and see if it sinks in. What allowed Brady to have all that success? I mean the entire resume, the great statistics, and the Super Bowls. It wasn't overwhelming physical talent. There is nothing special about him physically. He doesn't have a great arm. He isn't very athletic. He certainly isn't fast. What was it?
     
  17. Formerscribe

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    To be fair, those greatest of all-time articles are normally going to pop up after Super Bowls. That is when the media looks to put accomplishments into context, not during the regular season.

    That said, it isn't hard to find articles proclaiming Brady to be the greatest of all time before the comeback against the Falcons. Here is just one. Y'all will notice it was published Feb. 2, 2015.
     
  18. FootballAnalyst98

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    I do what I want. Your ***** ass always on here talking **** and just got proven wrong you dumb**** sit your stupid ass down somewhere and go read one of your books to gain some more knowledge stupid ass. Trying always discredit mfers when your stupid ass don't even know wtf you be talking bout but sit on this high and mighty ass pedestal like you the ****. Don't ever question nobody again clown.
     
  19. jeh1856

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    How do you really feel about this
     
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  20. FootballAnalyst98

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    Huh
     
  21. Formerscribe

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    You can do what you want, but I should do what you tell me to do? That's funny.

    Rhetorically kicking your butt got boring and I made a sloppy mistake. I admitted my error. I also immediately proved your point wrong anyway. People didn't suddenly start talking about Brady as the GOAT after the rally against the Falcons. You got that wrong. By your logic, doesn't that mean you shouldn't question anybody ever again on anything? I'm probably asking too much to expect consistency and logic from you.

    To be clear, I don't try to discredit people. I do discredit specific posts. It happens to you quite a bit. If you had any sense, that would lead you to some introspection. Your latest post did nothing but reinforce your image as an ignorant child.
     
  22. Formerscribe

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    What word in his post did you not understand?
     
  23. jeh1856

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  24. METALMAN_68

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    Damn son, somebody hit puberty and their balls dropped. Reading your profanity-laced tirades is like watching Scarface on regular t.v., a giant waste of time. To be fair though, reading your posts has always been a giant waste of time.
     
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  25. FootballAnalyst98

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    Ok. Don't care what you think. Who are you?
     
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