15 Pro Football Hall Of Fame Finalists

Your stance is...........whatever at this point. Just like HOF voters is whatever.

HOF caliber is HOF caliber. No way Johnson should make it into the HOF before Ward.

As great as Moss, TO, Harrison, blah blah blah. Ward was a key cog in 2 SB winning teams. He played a huge role in this team making it to 3 SB's. You should just stop with the arguably ish. Ward is a HOF player. That's where it should start and end.

 

You never saw any of them play. You're just looking up a bunch of stats after I already explained that stats didn't tell the story about how great a player Hines Ward was. That would be like me arguing with someone 100 years old as who was better Bronco Nagurski or Red Grange, I wouldn't know I never saw either one play just like you never saw Hines Ward or Torry Holt play.

 

Ward is a HOF player. Ward should be in the HOF before Holt. End of discussion. The HOF voters have an anti Steeler bias. How else can it be explained at this point? Ward put up numbers CONSISTENTLY and helped his team win 2 championships and make 3 Superbowls.

 

meh. Weak class. Hines Ward deserves better.

 

because Wrs don’t win you sbs. They help but it’s far more important pieces than them so people don’t use team success when judging how great a WR was. It’s a numbers and individual accolades judged position.

and lol it is a difference. Maybe not to you but it is. That’s why some are first ballot and others aren’t.

 

it’s more than just overall numbers. All pros and pro bowls also count. Hines was never first team all pro. That means he never in his career was considered the best at his position. He was lucky to be top 5 most years.

 

I did see big game holt play as well as Hines. Not their entire careers of course. Look Hines was great and was a great Steeler but as a wr there’s several guys I’d take over him in his era. But he should eventually get in the hof he’s just not a slam dunk.

and no I brought up stats because you argued holts numbers only what they were because of Warner which is completely false.

 

Really? Lynn Swann, John Stallworth, Hines Ward caught a TD pass from a WR, Santonio Holmes. They all disagree! Me too!

 

they helped of course but they were far from the driving force or main reason the team won like a QB can be. WR is a dependent position. Hard for them to do but so much.

 

Let's see your score so far.
1. About the Rams= Wrong.
2. About R. Wilson,and the Broncos this year = Wrong.
3. About the Bengals this Year = Wrong.
4. About Lamar Jackson always = Wrong.
5. About Hines Ward = Wrong.
So this shows listening to You = Wrong.

 

Anyone who has an NFL rule named after him should be in the HoF

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/09/a...d did change the game,neck area of a defender.

 

So, Bradshaw would have won without Swann and Stallworth to throw to? Montana without Rice and Taylor? Aikman without Irvin? QB has to have someone to throw to.

 

But, but, Shannon Sharpe said so......

 

That's because early in his career we were a running team and that hurt his numbers. Stats are one thing its the intangibles that matter and I would want that guy on my team any time I was lacing them up. The travesty is and will remain LC Greenwood. That dude was a freak and its a a travesty he is not in there. Frankly should have been in there before SWANN. I love Harrison but not sure he is a HOF in the way that I think of the HOF. Did he have the length of dominance or a few great years. Greatest defensive play in Super Bowl history for sure but was his career a HOF career. Overachiever as undrafted for sure but he might not make it. I would love him to be in I just don't think they vote him in.

 

Montana won before rice and Taylor. Never said they don't help. But they play a dependent position.

 

Lamar jackson wrong how? Ravens are in the playoffs and He had done enough up until he got hurt that they were able to clinch the playoffs while losing without him. That shows the impact he already had on the season.

Hines ward wrong how lol? He's not in the hall of fame thus far for a reason. He will eventually get in though. But it's no way if it took cris Carter 6x that Hines is getting in anytime soon.

I was wrong about the broncos this yr. Let's see what happens when they have an actual coach next yr and not a guy they hired because they thought it a help recruit Aaron Rodgers.

Bengals I was wrong initially in the summer about but if you also remember once deshaun watson suspension came down I said they'd make it. I picked the bengals to be 3rd in the division initially but one desahun essentially missed the whole season I switched My stance.

Rams wrong how?

 

Dependent on what? A QB to throw them the ball? Wouldn't the QB be dependent? You know, on a receiver to throw the ball to?

 

LoL. Welcher.
The Ravens are 3-2 with Huntley. So No Lamar Jackson didn't take them to the playoffs. They only had 7 wins before Huntley started. Also Huntley has as many wins against Pittsburgh as Lamar Jackson does.....with less tries. LoL.

 

Yes but the qb can throw it to any of the whoever many wrs, tes, rbs he has running a route on nay respective play- the qb always has the ball in his hands and thus has a much larger effect on the game. There's games where a wr will have zero impact. Like Justin Jefferson last Sunday. He's been arguably the best wr all yr and was a non factor in that game. The qb no matter what will always impact the outcome of a game. It's arguably the most important position in any sport.

 

Why do you keep bringing up pittsburgh? They play pittsburgh for two games every yr. The ravens can make the playoffs without having to beat Pittsburgh. Beating Pittsburgh it's not some measuring stick to the validity of a player.

And you missed the point I said. Yes they're 2-2 with him as a starter but they literally clinched the playoffs with a LOSS. Lamar jackson had already gave them a huge of enough cushion in the win column that they clinched it in a loss. That was my point. Huntley actually lost them the division lead as they were leading when lamar last started.

And if I'm a "welcher" on whatever so called bet you claim I made why do you constantly keep mentioning and replying to my posts? Didn't you say you weren't anymore and still found a way to? So he really is the one who so called don't stick to their words?

 

Where's your gold jacket or bust in canton Ohio?

 

Some of you all really need to take the steeler glasses off. Hines was barely a top ten wr of his Era and many of you are acting like he was a first ballot hall of famer or something.

 

Right next to yours!

 

Do you see me trying to question shannon sharpe?