Peter Kings Power Ranking

You are the one who keeps trying to sell this idea that nobody else wanted Pickett. Sorry, but all we know is that nobody else wanted to spend or trade for a pick among the top 19. After that, the Steelers didn't give anyone else the opportunity.

There is nothing flawed about my logic at all. The Giants weren't going to take a quarterback in the first round. Sometimes, when teams tell you what they are going to do, you should listen. The Jets took a quarterback in the first round last year. The only teams that seemed to have a need at quarterback and multiple first-rounders that passed were the Saints and Lions. The Saints had already invested in the position short-term and seemed focused on building the rest of the team. I'll give you the Lions. Of course, they weren't going to take him over Hutchinson, but they did trade up earlier in the first round. Do you really want to build your argument on the idea that the Lions know better than the Steelers? By all means, try to defend that hill. I'll trust Colbert and Tomlin over the Lions and feel good about that choice.

Just because the Saints and Lions passed doesn't mean no other team would have traded into the end of the first round for him. This isn't a groupthink thing. Teams have different preferences.

Regarding Brice's comment, the Steelers clearly did fool people into thinking they wanted Willis. Then again, maybe if Pickett hadn't fallen to them at 20, they might have settled for Willis in the second or third round. I'm guessing the third because they really seem to love Pickens.

I would have been very happy with Hill or Linderbaum at 20, Skyy Moore or Pickens in the second round, and Willis in the third. You keep implying that Pickens would have fallen to the third round because Willis fell that far. Again, Willis's fall proves no such thing. All Willis falling to the end of the third round tells us is that no team wanted Willis in the first or second round and most of the league didn't want him in the third. It doesn't tell us anything about the league's opinion of Pickett. As I mentioned previously, they are so vastly different as prospects, it makes little sense to lump them together.

 

And the experts had the Steelers finishing behind the Browns, and Ravens last season.

 

Also the Panthers passed on Him.
I think He's already better than Trubisky. LoL

 

And the Year before.

 

As I stated before and will again, I do have the Steelers reaching double digit wins again this season but not the same level of confidence I had the Season before; 10-7 being my current prediction before Training Camp. Now, my floor is not as optimistic as years past; 6-11 being the lowest they can go but within the same time, 12-5 does not seem that impossible either should the Steelers finish the first half of the season strong.


I get where Peter King is coming from... but much of his logic simply does not add up; doubly so since he is supposed to give a general summary of each team and, judging how he has done so for other teams... clearly went for more attention.

 

Best time 2 listen 2 P. King is right after Pre Season....He seems 2 be more on the money at that time.
I would bet money He changes His mind about half the teams when He does His big write up around that time.

 

Fair enough on that!!


He still does have the ability to make those good guesses just days after the Pre Season. Do not know how he does it but he does have the gift for it.

 

I was responding to the part about teams with two first-round picks passing on him. Also, the Panthers passed on him at No. 6 overall. That doesn't mean they wouldn't have considered moving up into the latter part of the first round for him.

 

Off topic, but Peter King was the only media reporter/ person that said we would draft KP and that MW would fall out of the first round... Just a lil FYI

 

Pete Prisco of CBS Sports also stated this but not nearly as early and often as Peter King did. Pete began to state such weeks leading up to the draft. King has been on that notion since January if I recall.

 

I kinda have the Steelers at around 9-8. There are areas that I'm confident that we've gotten fixed and areas of concern. I'm more confident that we'll see improved O-Line play in '22 compared to how I felt this time last last year. On defense, I think the run defense will be better (at default just due to that it can't get much worse than last year (I hope)). My biggest concern is our secondary with pretty much two #2 CBs as the starters. I guess we'll see. I wouldn't pencil this team in Tempe in February, but I find it hard to believe they'll be drafting in the top ten. They'll be improved in areas and worse in others with relatively the same final record. I suspect that the rest of the team's needs will be met in the next offseason, unless we make a move or two after the June 1st and camps cuts.

 

You keep presenting things as if they are fact when they are not. It is just as likely that the Steelers had other players they liked better than Willis or Ridder and they would have taken one of them if Pickett hadn't fallen to them.

No, passing on Pickett in the top 10 does not mean a team wouldn't want Pickett at the end of the first round. You can keep repeating that nonsense all you want, but that doesn't make it true.

Most importantly, you really are trying to argue in favor of trusting the judgment of the Lions over the judgment of the Steelers. I never said the Steelers don't make mistakes. What I wrote was that I trust them more than I trust the Lions. Are you seriously trying to argue that point?

 

Must admit I did enjoy seeing the Patriots going the wrong way. Not sure why that is but still like it.

 

All I can say to that is at least we made the Playoffs. Not sure but some of those teams never made the Playoffs in those 5 years. (I think)

 

Let me ask you this more directly. Whose judgement do you trust more? The Steelers or the Lions?

 

I'm pointing out top 10 because that was when the Panthers, Falcons, and Seahawks passed on the quarterbacks. There is a big difference between top 10 and the back end of the first round.

You brought up the teams with multiple first-round picks. As it turns out, three of those teams seemed to have no interested in taking a quarterback this year. The Giants said all along they were sticking with Jones. we can disagree with that decision, but that doesn't mean it wasn't their choice. The Jets just took one last year. I don't agree with what the Saints are doing, but they chose to go with the guys they have, not even taking a quarterback later.

That leaves the Lions, which comes back to the question of who you trust more, the Lions or the Steelers. That should be an easy answer.

 

So you trust the Steelers more, but you think the Lions were right? That makes little sense.

I reject your premise that the Steelers were the only team that thought Pickett was worth a late pick in the first round.

I'll stick to the facts, which tell us only one thing, that the Steelers were right to pass on all of the other quarterbacks in the first round, including Willis.

 

Going back one more year, they made the conference championship.

The horrible loss to the Jaguars is in that five year span. No sugar coating that.

Those five years also contain a HoF QB missing a year and then not being the same player for two years after returning.