What positions are in play at pick #20?

Wrong, especially the part about Edmunds being a mistake. I can't produce a post about my desire at the time for the Steelers to take the next inside linebacker on the board, Leonard, but you know I ripped the decision to draft Edmunds immediately. I never thought to post that they shouldn't take him ahead of time because nobody thought that was even a possibility before that idiotic draft decision was announced.

 

I wasn't among those many who were wrong about that. I was also one of the ones who was pushing for the to take Humphrey in the second round when it was clear he would be available. As much as I like Freiermuth, I think we can all agree that they would have been better off with Humphrey.

There is no excuse for not being ready to draft any of the top 30-to-60 players in rounds one or two if the picks fall in a way that makes the selection work. None. Take this year's draft, for example. The Steelers skipped Iowa's pro day. By the logic being pushed on this thread, that means there should be no chance they take Tyler Linderbaum. Say Willis, Pickett, the top four cornerbacks, the top four offensive tackles, Zion Johnson, and Jordan Davis are all gone by the time No. 20 rolls around. That is absolutely possible. At that point, it is very likely Linderbaum would be the best fit left on the board. He's the plug-and-play center they needed and passed on last year, but by your logic, they would be right to pass, correct?

 

no, for me. I would like to see a defensive player drafted in the first. Maybe OL but not Linderbaum, sorry, not a first rounder for me (measurables) not saying he is a bad player just wld not take him at 20, too many other options

 

How would it not be a need? The guy they got from the Vikings is below average at best and Daniels is better at guard. I think they should do their due diligence on every player in the top 50 or 60, and be ready to draft someone in that range even if they didn't make the guy's pro day. I'm not talking about doing it on the fly. I'm talking about being ready for a wider variety of options.

 

That's not true at all. Leonard was the next guy up at inside linebacker.

 

Linderbaum didn't even workout at Iowa's pro day, he's currently injured and a bit undersized, and they signed two players who can play center if needed.

 

I doubt the draft will play out like that, some team will take a chance on Willis in the top 15 IMO.

 

Hello Seattle!

 

Even the guys doing the mock said that. Their explanation was their mock was what the teams should pick not what they will pick.

 

He can play, we haven't had a CB like him since Rod Woodsen.

 

If an 8 percenter is there, you still pass on him? I would prefer defense for 2 of the 3 first rounds, but idc if the first rounder is a WR if he is that good. I still think CB and ILB should be priorities early in the draft. Assuming we address the SS spot in FA, WR is a top 3 need on our team right now. CB and ILB being the other two. Davis is probably the only non-QB in the first round that I would break from those three positions to draft. Aside from that CB, WR, ILB. Those should be the areas we look to go in the first 3 rounds.

 

If thats the scenario, good chance that Devin Lloyd is available, maybe Garrett Wilson? There are plenty of guys I would be picking ahead of or instead of Linderbaum if the field broke in this manner. The value of a first round center is All-Pro or bust. Good centers can be had in FA for fairly cheap (less than 10mil a year). I would look to play the field on that position instead of throwing a pick at someone unless we are 100% certain they will be an instant All-Pro like Pouncey was. Its the same reason as to why I was down on the Harris pick this past year. Now, it looks like Harris is going to be pretty special, so at least they got the pick correct... but some positions just have WAY less value in round 1. Center is one of those positions (alongside RB, TE, and 3-4 NT).

For the record I am fine with Freiermuth over Humphrey (although I would have been fine with Humphrey as well). We signed Cole, and if he doesn't work out there will be another quality C to be had in the next FA for less than 10 mil a year. Muth could turn out to be a great player in his own right. Too early to be down on that pick.

 

Still wouldn't. Nothing against your argument. It is quite sound. I just think if You get the Qb you don't need the 8% Wr., and only a 8 percenter is going 2 make a bad Qb look a little better. So as being a 8 percenter Wrs are very few,, and far between. So good chance You don't get one of those unicorns.....but.... You can get just a good CB, SS, DL, ILB, and our Defense will be better.

 

Cole wants to play center. That is his preference. Ask how he did last year when the Vikings ran all over us. I am not worried about it not working out. I think Cole is our starting center. Green is moved to gaurd and if he cant start at guard than Green will be a back up. I think Green, because of his quickness, might work out at guard. Have not given up on him.

Oline is looking a lot better after FA:

Dan Moore Jr., Dotson, Cole, Daniels, will be the core
and whoever else steps up Chuks/Green/Leglue etc.

 

Yes, I just mean that we dont need to spend any draft capital at center (at least not in the first round). Cole will be fine, and if he isnt we can just fill the void in FA. Its not a top dollar position. Quality can be had for cheap.

 

No, they really weren't. I've seen one ranking that had Edmunds higher, but the rest all had Leonard higher.

Where did I say they would learn something that significant at the pro day? I didn't. I'm saying it was a mistake to pass on Linderbaum's, just as it was a mistake to pass on Leonard's.

 

Yeah, just winging it at center worked out so well last season.

You are fine passing on a guy who immediately became one of the top two or three guys at his position, a position that absolutely killed the Pittsburgh offense most of last season? Um, okay.

 

Well!!! That is hint number one.


Number two is to see if AR II and John Mara discuss it at the Annual Meeting; coming up in three days at the time of this post. Dates are March 27th to the 30th. Should at least hear something about that then.

 

Keep us posted…

 

trading up for who? who do they like that they would make a move like that? A lot of great/elite players, I just dont know who they would trade up for? Lloyd the linebacker?