POLL: Who is most to blame for the Steelers' sad state?

I don't think the state is "sad" we are just not as good as we have been in recent years. There are a lot of reasons why we aren't particularly good. I voted Tomlin, but I think the Rooneys have some share of the blame to eat. The main takeaway from this season is that we are incredibly poorly coached. Sure, our OLine has been overwhelmed due to our over-reliance on rookies and first time starters... but overall the roster doesn't lack talent. Our OC has struggled all year developing quality offensive gameplans and has been horrible with his situational play calling. Our DC hasn't been able to adapt to some of our injuries up front. Our HC still struggles immensely with his timeouts and his challenges. We still play down to inferior teams. We still come out flat in big moments. Tomlin will likely never be able to correct these things if he hasn't already. I think as an organization we made a concentrated effort to hire from within recently... This has turned out to be a horrible mistake. At the very least we should be looking outside the organization for quality coordinators to help us turn it around. I have resigned to the fact that we likely have no desire to move on from Tomlin for some reason, but we need to do something.

However, the team itself is in a VERY correctable situation. We have studs on D in Heyward, Watt, and Fitzpatrick. We just drafted an exciting young RB and TE. We have a quality #1 WR in Johnson. This definitely isn't a situation that cant be turned around with some money spent in the right places and a good pick or two in the draft.

 

Ok, somewhere along the line, I missed where the whole "popcorn" thing, as it pertains to Tomlin, came from. What's the reference?

 

I believe Tomlin uses it as a term to mean something is easy or run of the mill. But I'm not entirely sure.

 

I still stand by if the Steelers had won Super Bowl XLV, the underachieving in the last 10 years wouldn't sting as much. However, with that, the Steelers, with the talent they had, should have won at least another Super Bowl, but there was a combination of bad coaching, injuries at the worst time (Bell in the AFC title game) (Ryan Clark(Sickle Cell) in Denver) and career ending injuries to elite players (Shazier) and Colbert missing on 1st rounders that created this situation.

The other part is the NFL no longer allows intimidation on defense no matter how good your defense is. Steelers used to win games sometimes tackling real hard in the first two series and you could see the other teams running back and QB hesitate the rest of the game. I remember many times when Chris Johnson, running back for the Titans, would get hit good early in the game, he would be non-existent the rest of the game. Joe Flacco, who played well against the Steelers most of his career, even he in many games would start to fold during the later quarters because he got tired of getting hit. Taking that away from the Steelers was taking away everything they have been their entire existence. Steelers have never really recovered from that. They do not stop the run any more. They are one of the worst tacklers in the league. They aren't really the Steelers anymore. Just some figment of what used to be with a coach who tries to act like they are about that focus. They aren't because they aren't allowed to anymore with the combination of a head coach who isn't capable of adapting consistently.

The NFL is the highest end Arena Football League no one ever thought we would see. If you watch Arena Football 20 years ago, it is exactly what the NFL is now. It's a fixed offense no defense, no spacial team advantage, easy to know system of football that most teams have had to accept and deal with because there is too much money in it. Fantasy Football and Betting rule the NFL. Nothing else does.

The epitome of the change was one single play I saw this year in how different the culture is. How badly it's deteriorated. Desean Jackson, the same moron, who has lost TD scores celebrating at the one yard line before he entered the end zone, did something similar this year, he just happened to score this time, Sean McVay started running towards him and celebrated. I was sitting there shaking my head going, wow, this idiot almost cost his team a TD, FOR THE 3rd time, because he still pulls the same lame 1 yard celebration move before he hits the end zone and McVay didn't care. He was all up in there celebrating. Mike Tomlin let's Antonio Brown treat people like trash with no consequences, he does nothing to Claypool for celebrating a 1st down when they lost a play because of it. He lets them celebrate like morons when they are down 23 points after an interception.

If I weren't a die hard Steelers fan, it's likely I would have left the NFL a few years ago. I play Fantasy Football but the excitement of that had dwindled more and more as the years of gone on.

 

Since there is no I in team, I would have to say all of the above.

 

Yes they do, what I was trying to convey is MT worth 10 million/year? Or maybe take less for top assistants?That will make
his life easier and more productive.

 

It's so weird to me. Like for as terrible this team has looked this season they're still 7-7-1 with a legit shot of making the playoffs. The Ravens and Browns are in even worse shape.

I think the greatest contributor of the so-called downfall has to do with years of salary cap manipulation catching up with the organization due to the salary cap dropping nearly 30m from last season. Top that off with a rash of injuries, a terrible OLine and an aging QB we gotten a season full of inconsistencies.

Won or lose, the Steelers are going to ball out the next two weeks against teams that are in worse shape than the Steelers.

 

That My Friend is the whole reason I stopped playing fantasy football. Hell I played it before there was computers, and We would sit around in someone's basement, and do Our drafts. LoL

 

Would you take less at your job, to pay other employees?

 

Myself.
1. Would matter how much I made.
2. Would matter who the employees are.
3. All the above.
I believe the Head coach of the Razorbacks gave up some of His pay 2 keep His defense coordinator. At least I read that. Of Course one is college....the other the NFL

 

College coaches do that not NFL coaches, the Rooney's can afford to spend more on assistant coaches if they want to.