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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Maddog78, Nov 6, 2021.

  1. Maddog78

    Maddog78 Well-Known Member

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    So many ways the Steelers could have gone in that draft that would have changed their future. Comically sad that they still have the Steelers taking Edmunds here when these three guys taken after were actually available on draft night. Franchise changing mistake made all to reach for the guy from Tomlin's zip code.

    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2018-nfl-redraft/

    Scenario 1: Lamar Jackson. He sits in 2018 and takes over when Ben gets hurt in 2019. They could have been building around him the last few years instead of trying to prop up a wannabe contender around Ben.

    Scenario 2: Darius Leonard. I mean, it's not like they didn't need an ILB after Shazier with gone, and it would have saved all those draft picks used to reach for Devin Bush the next season.

    Scenario 3: Jessie Bates if you're dead set on a safety. Guy has been stellar for Cincy, might have saved them the pick they spent on Minkah, too.
     
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  2. SteelerGlenn

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    Thanks for reminding us how dumb the Steelers are. What a great service you and your partner Benny provide.
     
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  3. Maddog78

    Maddog78 Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't unprompted, I saw a stat on how well Leonard was playing and then looked for a redraft article as a result. But, as always...

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  4. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    Never look back. It doesn't do anything for the present, it can't change the past, and as far as the future is concerned, if we did one of those picks you mentioned, that pick could have blown out a knee and never played again. So, what's the purpose of making oneself miserable? Coulda, woulda, shoulda, also comes to mine. The focus now, which is where I am, is on da Bears, (along with Bungles losing, Rats getting exterminated this week, and no injuries).
     
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  5. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I'm just not a fan of Lamar Jackson. Definitely wouldn't care for him to be our QB. I will always root against him no matter how talented he may be.
     
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  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I'm not either. Not so much him, but I don't like that type of Qb play.
     
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  7. SDOT

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    I said at the time that draft set us back years but nobody wanted to hear it. The Lamar Jackson argument is just pointless. Just look at Dobbs at what Lamar Jackson would've been if the Steelers drafted him. Anyways, wasting your 1st on a player because Tomlin likes the family and went to school with the mom is a flawed approach. Then they drafted a guy built like a fb to be a "deep threat" To this day they still refuse to use him properly. Then Tomlin wasted the Bryant pick to grab Rudolph. Which the Steelers have learned hey if you drated your QBs successor probably don't pair it with his good friend and a WR you need to produce. Because Ben hates Washington by association and won't even look his way so another wasted pick. Marcus Allen is basically the teams hype man aka another wasted pick. Samuels showed promise then never got any real chances again. Then they took a flier on Frazier because of a coach they just got in the offseason and shocker it didn't pan out.

    I'm not going to hindsight pick the whole draft but it was brutal. 2019 is looking like it can be pretty bad if Bush doesn't live up to half the hype. I wasn't a fan of that draft either.
     
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  8. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The Steelers weren't going to pull a Green Bay move and draft a first round QB while their franchise QB is still playing well, they were never going to draft Leonard in the first round, he's a small school ILB who ran slow and Colbert/Tomlin didn't attend his pro day. I liked Bates coming out of college, you can go back and do this redraft for every team in the NFL for any given year.
     
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  9. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    Me neither as well. I don't like his style of play or him because he is a flying rodent. We must break him.
     
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  10. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

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    Amazing how well everybody drafts three years after the fact.
     
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  11. TheTerribleOwl

    TheTerribleOwl Well-Known Member

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    Edmunds isn't even close to the worst pick in the first round and he was almost at the end of the round. That pick hardly set us back years. Lol.
     
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  12. Steelrules

    Steelrules Well-Known Member

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    Agree. Steelers headed into the season with Brown, JuJu, Washington and Rogers at WR. Why would they draft a QB with questionable passing skill to throw to these WRs?
     
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  13. Maddog78

    Maddog78 Well-Known Member

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    I'll see your "never look back" and raise you a "those who don't learn from past mistakes are doomed to repeat them".
     
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  14. Maddog78

    Maddog78 Well-Known Member

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    The MVP type?
     
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  16. Formerscribe

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    I've seen the argument about Leonard many times and it is as ridiculous now as it was then. None of what you wrote change the fact that it was a mistake to pass on him. There has been no doubt about that among the sane since he earned All-Pro honors as a rookie. He played a position that was every bit as big a need as safety, and he would have saved the Steelers from spending three picks to get Bush, who isn't as even close to being as good as Leonard. Leonard was ranked as high or higher than Edmunds on just about every pre-draft ranking out there, some by a huge margin.

    This isn't hindsight. Edmunds was a ridiculous reach. That was clear the moment the selection was announced. Even if they didn't take Edmunds, there were many other options who were better. Again, that was inarguable among the sane back then, and it has only become clearer over time.
     
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  17. S.T.D

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    Funny how you flip flop from SB winning and MVP stat makers...2 go how ever you want your questionable comments 2 go.:shrug:
    One min regular season Qb stats don't matter only playoff wins , and SB wins, but when it fits what You want 2 say then regular season stats matter...Hmmm:shrug:
     
  18. Thor

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    Please don't start down this road of misrepresentation again. Too many posters have shown you otherwise too many times.

    If you want to say Leonard would have been a better pick, fine. But acting as if the vast majority of rankings had him significantly ahead of Edmunds is disingenuous.
     
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  19. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry. Edmunds will likely be playing for another team next year.... and Steelers will have to fill the void at Strong Safety.
     
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  20. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    As for myself....no matter what round he was drafted....I will be happy 2 see him go. I believe he is one of the weakest starters on the D.
     
  21. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    We are spoiled with Troy Polamalu. Nothing compares to him... *cue the Sinead O'Connor song*
     
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  22. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Actually it's a Prince song she covered. :thumbs_up:
    I know because a band I played in back in the day Use 2 cover it. LoL
     
  23. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of misrepresenting, you just did exactly that with reality. I have backed up my point about this previously. Leonard was the better player then and he has done nothing since then but widen the gap. I'm sorry that reality troubles you so much.
     
  24. Formerscribe

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    I'm not worried, but I do find it comical that so many members of this board still defend the Steelers on this one. You can reasonably argue which other player they should have taken, but the position that Edmunds was a reach was clear then and everything that has happened since then has backed up that point of view. He would have been a fine third-round pick, maybe even second round, but no way he should have gone in the first.
     
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  25. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    I agree. There were plenty of players, Leonard included, that were more worthy of the 1st round pick. Hindsight is 20/20. Nothing we can do about it now.
     

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