So How are all those Rookie Qbs Doing???

Just bring this up...Well...Because some talk about
1. Draft capital, and moving up 2 get a Qb
2. I keep hearing How so many Qbs coming out today are just great ,and More are ready for the NFL
3. Nobody seems 2 go back and See how many are failing, and will fail.
4. Nobody really sees what a Qb is really about until the Team is paying for their Huge cap Hit.
5. If a Qb doesn't win a SB before His huge cap hit starts 2 break the team...More than likely they won't ever win one...if History has shown us anything.

 

All of this years rookie QBs have been @ss. I said before and during the draft that the only QB that would make it from this crop of reaches would be Trevor Lawrence. He hasn't been very good either.

I watched Justin Fields play yesterday. He was absolutely awful. I watched Trey Lance play 2 weeks ago, also awful. Davis Mills has been terrible. Same goes for Zach Wilson.

I really hope the Steelers hold off on drafting a QB until a cant miss player is available. When they do pick a QB I hope they sit him until he is ready to play. These other teams are going to ruin these kids in the first year.

 

I'm glad Jalen Hurts isn't making a splash.

 

Then there is Tom frigging Brady

 

I really think We should Hold out until the rest of the team is built. IMO. Why waste a pick on a Qb 2 fail, and By the time We get the team built up We have 2 pay Him top money...So we can't keep the team around Him.

 

I didn't think He would. Only Qbs in the last 2 Years I thought would be any good ...were...Trevor L., Burrows, and Mac Jones...Justin Herbert intrigued Me, but that wasn't until I watched His Combine. Because I really never watch much of Him in college.
Of Course IMO...We really won't know how truly Great any of them are until their teams are paying them the big Money, and You can't pay a Team so much around them.

 

History hasn't shown us that at all. Lots of teams have won with their QB's having large cap hits.
Besides, what is your solution then, never draft a QB? Teams don't let star QB's go very often, so the draft is typically the only way to get one.
Yes, there will be misses, but there will also be hits. You will never hit if you're too scared to swing.

 

I should have said recent History, but I believe You knew what I meant. Since Qb pay has take so much of the cap. From what I can find....4 out of the last 25 SBs won are over 9% of their Salary cap....one of those was P Mannings last year ...

the rest are below that..So Yes...I would say History shows.

My solution would be 2 Get a team as ready as possible before wasting a pick on a Qb that by the time Your team is good....You are paying His big Cap hit salary.

 

Mac jones is decent, Lawrence stinks, Zach Wilson and fields are horrendous

 

should’ve known this kid was gonna fail based on that hairstyle haha

 

And the number of analysts predicting at the beginning of the year that Fields would be rookie of the year. These people are straight up on crack.

 

I forgot about Mac. He isn't exactly setting the league on fire either, but so far he has been the best of the bunch.

 

These analysts way overrated the 2020 QB class. Besides Trevor Lawrence there should not have been any QBs selected until the 2nd round. Davis Mills should have been a 5th. Lol

 

The problem with that plan is that as you said, and I agree fully with, most QB's are misses. It's hard to win in the NFL without a top QB, so unless the Steelers end up with that guy, then their odds of winning are slim, even if the rest of the team is ready. Plus, the biggest flaw with that plan is that if the rest of the team is ready, they are likely going to end up no worse than 500, meaning they aren't going to get a high pick to get a promising QB.

The best way is to keep taking QB's in the draft until one pans out. Take one in the 1st every single year if need be, assuming they are drafting high and not trying to find a diamond in the rough, which almost never happens

 

OK. If they do that, but The Steelers don't do that...You know this as a Steelers fan. If We take a Guy in the 1st round...We stick with Him no matter How bad they are Until His rookie contract is over. So if We pick a bad one....You can expect 2 see Him for 5 Years.
I don't think this team is Close enough for a rookie. Especially behind this line. Stick a rookie behind this line as it is now...I don't care who He is ....it spells trouble. Plus Haden will be gone next Year...So there goes our Best DB....Lot of pieces 2 get IMO before You bank on a Rookie Qb.

 

People expect too much out of rookie QBs. Impossible to judge completely at this point, especially since most of them went to bad teams. But Mac Jones has been the best and will likely be the best of the group, once again proving that mobility is completely overrated for QBs

 

They went to very bad teams. That's the trade off for being first round draftees.

 

1. It's far, far too early to tell with all of them.

2. Only Lance went to a good team, the rest are playing with ass

3. Lawrence is considered a "can't miss" prospect.

 

I also believe it's 2 early 2 tell, but ...a Qb can still look good , and lose on a bad team. Burrows did last year. You could watch Him play and See He was good, outside of M. Jones I can't say I've seen that....though I haven't watched T. Lawrence play 2 be honest this Year.

 

Uhhhhmmmmmm....
I don't understand anything You just said??? ....Coming from What I said.????
I think You took out of this what YOU...My friend wanted 2 take out of it.
It's cool.
I've done it before.

 

If You read all my post ....You will see that I agreed that it was 2 soon 2 rate them....that is Why I said that about even the Qbs that have been playing 2 years....You might want 2 go back and read.
I guarantee there are Backups or Guys on other Teams now You thought were great because they had a couple of good Years on great teams.....then got paid....the teams disappeared around them, and BAM you see what they really are.
I have always stated You can't know for sure about a Qb until His Cap starts affecting the team...Always. Should I bring up all the post I've said this????
Again You would not be saying this if You read all the post in this....again I agreed that it was 2 early. You just took it for what You wanted 2 take it as...I gave an example on one of Your threads ...how someone can read something and take it how they want...
I will say this ....if a Qb doesn't show something that looks like He good within the 1st couple of Years....You think He will Look a lot better after You can't afford a team around Him???

 

I would say it’s much more the talent around them that makes them look worse than what they are.