CB in round 1?

They have been in a lot of contact with Aaron robinson. He's got a nice resume. Was originally recruited to Alabama his freshman year before transferring to ucf. He's got some hilton similarities to his game around the line of scrimmage. Rd. 3-4.

 

I thought you were talking first round. They always take their biggest need in the 1st, even if it's a huge reach.

 

They didn't have a 1st round.. Claypool was their 1st pick

 

I think the Steelers ( probably most teams ) will draft BPA ....AND a position of need Combo...

For example...Say come Thursday, Kyle Trask QB or Kadarius Toney WR are the highest players ranked on their board...I could see the Steelers NOT taking them just because they have much bigger needs, and the next player on there list ( let's say it's Dickerson or some other OL ) they would take them because they might be ranked .00005% less of a prospect/but the position of need trump's it....

 

I think they will now swing for the fences with Caleb Farley and release Layne.

 

Still doesnt hurt not to rush,,,, Troy Edwards, . Limus sweed, artie burns, Jamain Stephens, Alonzo Jackson, ring a bell?? all 1st 2nd round players, .youve waited all night for the Steers to pick, so where ya got to be the nxt 20seconds thats so damn important ... lol

 

I believe if they waited 30 mins that's who they would have taken.
Good, or Bad( Mostly Good) they believe in their board.

 

Well, I mean, that's not BPA, that's picking for need. Nobody takes the 3rd best player on the board at their position of need.

 

I never said that.....

 

I said BPA / Position of need Combo, and gave examples...*Trask/Toney...Never mentioned 3rd best player.....

 

You either draft for need or draft BPA, regardless of need. Obviously, if you draft at your position of need, you'll take the best player at that position. But that's not what BPA means. It means taking the best player overall on the board, even if he's not an immediate need.

That's how the Packers got Aaron Rodgers.

So if a Davonta Smith or Justin Fields falls to 1.24, taking him would be taking BPA.

 

I agree to an extent, but with so many needs I can see the combo thing disco is talking about. Even with the recent returns and signings, a lot have are only one year contracts and I really believe does not take that position out if 1st round range. For instance say the grade on Dickerson and Collins is very close with Dickerson rated higher, both C and ILB are real needs. I would not say it is a reach or wrong to take Collins. I can see several scenarios where need and rating might be so close and depending on who is there they possibly take the lower rated guy.

 

BPA is not based on anybody's big board but each team's. Teams have their boards based on what they think of players not internet gms. There is also BPA at each position. If three qbs are off the board and the big board has another qb as the BPA, it's still the fourth best qb.

 

I really hope they get a corner in rd 3 have him as some depth and potentially a starter in 2/3 years. Our running game is the worst in the NFL. If we don’t draft OL/RB combo in rds 1 and 2 I don’t even know where to begin.

 

I’d say our clear cut biggest needs are:

OL because in my opinion we need 2 starters. Center and one of the tackle positions. Maybe one of Chuks or Banner whoever looks better in pre season can be a serviceable option but to think both will be solid is just foolish. They are both average at best starters we need at least one of them to be upgraded. Center goes without saying.

RB We have no starting RB on this team right now. Benny and McFarland are backup caliber players.

CB because we lost both Hilton and Nelson. Once we signed Sutton there was no way we could keep Hilton but to lose Sutton also was a horrible FO move. We have no proven nickel back now and the Layne situation made things worse if they still had hopes for him being that third guy.

TE Ebron can’t block and should be a #2 pass catching TE. We are pretty awful at this position now.

5 legit needs and more than likely only two max 3 picks will pan out.

 

"BPA at position of need" is completely different than "BPA", though, and Steeler fans and media always conflate the two and in fact, use it as a rebuttal of criticism that the Steelers will draft for need, as if anyone is suggesting that the Steelers should take the 2nd or 3rd best player available at a position of need.

Sadly, they often do. Artie Burns was not the best CB available, Edmunds not the best safety.

 

ballage was added.

layne may not have been in the plans anyway. pierre and a former starter williams are still here so layne wasn't the only guy to fill in for nelson or hilton. we don't know that layne is gone yet either. i do expect we draft one though. we have been in contact with a lot of pretty solid corners through this process.

i do believe we get a TE. we have 5 in camp, so maybe one steps up. we have had two of them around for a couple of years and maybe their time is now. gentry would have played more except for the knee injury.

new offense requires different talent for a different scheme, so going by the last couple of years of run blocking doesn't tell the story yet. we don't know yet how these guys we have will work out in this new scheme. maybe chuks excels in it. maybe banner does. just to say these guys aren't good based on what we did before is really speculating. the additions we made may have come from schemes that didn't fit them as well either. we will have to wait and see. change for changes sake is not always a good thing.

new coaching at certain positions will also be different. TE, DB, OL, OC. to say we need upgraded at all these positions may not be the case with new coaching and scheme.

not all the players in this draft will just be plug and play upgrades for our system. we need players that fit what we want to do. going by last year and just wanting to change those players with top linemen may not fit us now. just because lets say creed humphrey may be the top center and he played in a scheme like we ran last year, he may not be a good fit for what we are going to do this year. maybe morrissey is the better fit. i'd hope thats what our front office is looking at.

i think many are basing what we did in the past to what we will do in the future way too early. not all players fit a scheme no matter where they are ranked. not all guys can play in every system. i also believe there will be a balance in this draft amongst the offense and defense. for as much talent that we lost on offense we lost just as much off the defense.

 

Yep our scouts at the DB position have the wrong formula. I always thought a crazy way for them to draft would be multiple WR'S . We have a knack for getting that position right so maybe they could draft a few extra then trade them for DB'S already playing in the NFL.I think Teams respect the way they draft WR'S and would value the fact the Team picked them..Maybe even over value would be my hope..

 

IMO. I don't believe that will work, because of all the flameouts after they leave, The Team, the system, and Ben.
GMs are not blind 2 this.

 

That’s a good post Mac however I don’t care what scheme you run the OL and RBs are below the line. Could they improve some with a better coordinator and scheme? Possibly. Will it matter with Ben in Shotgun throwing 50 times a game? Probably not

I also want to add that Ballage albeit in a different system was maybe the worst RB in the NFL last year.

 

im not sure thats the plan to have ben throwing 50 times a game but if it is it wont matter whos on the line, we better draft a bunch of wrs.

 

It’s never the plan but Big Boy doesn’t like to play under center and certainly can’t run a RPO motion offense that is Canada’s speciality. Please no more WRs!! Watch them draft one in the second