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Will Corona virus deter you from going to Heinz Field this season?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Da Stellars, May 18, 2020.

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  1. Diamond

    Diamond Well-Known Member

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    Coaches are starting to test positive:

    One of Tampa Bay's assistant coaches has tested positive for the coronavirus and two other Buccaneers assistants have been quarantined, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.
     
  2. steel machine

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    Very depressing. I know I'm in the minority among sport fans but I love watching Golf. So happy they are playing. I'm guessing the players enjoy the peace of playing with no fans around. The NFL will be sorely missed by me. IMO there was so much to look forward to in the AFC North.
     
  3. jeh1856

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    I don’t watch golf, and I was so hard up for sports I watched a replay from years ago.
     
  4. Steel_Elvis

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    The issues of denial and fatigue have the potential to derail our recovery, both in terms or public health and the economy. It's true that many areas of the country were not hit hard in the first wave, and it's very easy for people who didn't feel or see the public health impacts first hand to pretend that the impacts are overblown. It's also ironic that the people with that perspective are probably the ones who benefitted most from the strong mitigation measures. The spread was dramatically slowed. It's a fact. The areas that were not hit hard benefitted from the lockdown measures that prevented a significant spread of infections to most areas of the country. The numbers in heavily affected areas didn't come down as a result of nature, they came down as a result of mitigation. The limit of spread across the country didn't occur because people outside of the affected areas we're immune, the spread was limited by mitigation.

    It's very clear now that reasonable mitigation measures like maintaining physical distance, and wearing masks (especially indoors) when physical distance cannot be maintained, are effective tools in reducing transmission. Those measures are EASY. Lockdowns and forcing businesses to shutdown are not easy, and the economic ramifications can be dire. If we are responsible as a society, and people do what's EASY to limit the spread, the harder measures will not be necessary. The easy mitigation measures are perhaps only needed on a variable basis depending on local situations. In areas where there is nearly no infection, maintaining reasonable distance may be enough. In areas where there are more cases, masks will likely be a lot more important.

    One other thought here, the health experts are reluctant to say that anything is safe, but I think anecdotal evidence is really starting to paint a clear picture that outdoor activities are safer than indoor. Think of when we've seen big outbreaks here in the US - they have all seemingly been associated with people in close proximity to each other indoors. The NY transit system (and pretty much everywhere else in NYC in the Winter). The choir practice in Washington. The sunbelt areas of the country right now where people are driven indoors by the heat. The recent experience of 23 people being infected in one bar in Jacksonville on one night. The opposite is true outdoors. You have the beaches opening on Florida in April with less than ideal distancing. You have the Ozarks pool bar. The protests. I'm no epidemiologist, but it seems that the evidence at a macro level points to outdoors being quite a bit safer for activities where groups of people will be together. I saw one article a few weeks back where a scientist put a number to it and said something to the effect that you are 18.7 times safer outdoors than indoors if exposed to an infected person. That seems a bit overly specific based on what the scientific community actually knows about this disease, but I wouldn't be surprised of the real number is somewhere in that range.
     
  5. Roonatic

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    Most of the new outbreaks in Florida are showing up in the younger generations (other than the nursing homes). Not as severe in how sick the youngsters are getting yet. Hope Florida or Texas is not the next N.Y. city.
     
  6. Bacarty2

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    Spiked are based on 14 or 20 day rolling cycles.

    If you have 10 cases a day(which is nothing) and get 14 or higher its consider a spike. Even though 14 compared to the hundreds a day in march is nothing, they still have to shout it from the roof top that it's a spike.
     
  7. Steel_Elvis

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    Texas is not on a good trend. Texas has set records for daily C19 hospitalizations every day between June 8 and today except for June 11 where they had a small one-day drop. Texas reported over 2,900 yesterday, and their pre-June 8 high was 1,888 in early May. https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/0d8bdf9be927459d9cb11b9eaef6101f

    Right now the outbreak in Texas is nowhere near overwhelming the healthcare system, but we've seen in NY, NJ, MA, and where I live in Southern CT that infection, hospitalizations and deaths can take off like a rocket if left unmitigated.

    From what I can see, Florida's DPH doesn't report hospitalization numbers, or if they do, it's something you have to dig for. The Gov's statement about it not being a problem because younger people are getting it is a bit silly unless Florida is a place where younger people and older people never come in close contact with one another.
     
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  8. AFan

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    I hear this all the time, I can't compare some other risk in life to risk of Covid exposure. Serious, non smart ass question: why can't I? No one chooses to die in a car wreck, but many drive recklessly, drive drunk, not wear a seatbelt. Death is all around. Take risks you raise your chances. I don't really see a difference. Simple rules of life: don't be stupid, don't be a cheapskate, don't poke the bear.

    Have not witnesses any gruesome Covid deaths with my own eyes. But hiding under our beds only prolongs the problem. Flattening the curve, doesn't change the area the curve (i.e. Cases and deaths). Until there's a treatment or mass herd immunity, we have two choices: live with disease and act responsibly or hide under the rug and watch the economy and society disintegrate. Be responsible, protect the vulnerable, put on your pants and go to work. No functioning society = no health care for anyone beyond Gates, Bezos and Zuckerberg.
     
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  9. Roonatic

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    I think the older generations are very wary here in FL at the moment. The death #s for their age bracket is alarming.
     
  10. Vox Ferrum

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    That's the dilemma. I am 61, diabetic, and other concerns, yet I have 2 jobs that take me out in public sometimes 7 days a week. I have to deliver to hospitals, nursing homes, restaurants, etc. I have little direct contact and follow directives religiously. Now my son wants to visit from LA next month and I am like...well...maybe. lol. I have not seen him in over a year, but honestly have no desire to put myself in harms way. I just cannot see myself going to a sporting event, movie, or even dining out for some time.
     
  11. Vox Ferrum

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    During the first wave when FL started to spike, their numbers on the elderly were remarkably good compared to NY, PA and other states. I have not followed up to see if that is still true, but one thing they supposedly did do was to give strict early guidelines for visitation in Nursing homes and retirement communities. Here in central PA it is still like a fortress trying to even get in some of the retirement communities when making deliveries.
     
  12. AFan

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    The health experts will NEVER say anthing is safe. Because, there is always risk. I can't guarantee you no risk. "Safe" to them doesn't mean a balanced assessment of risks to the community. "Safe" means making sure I don't look bad, if I'm insisting I'm right kills the economy, no sweat., I still got paid. As Gov. Lappetimane said in Blazing Saddles: "Gentlemen, this is serious! We've got to save our phony baloney jobs!"
     
  13. BURGH43STEL

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    No one chooses to become infected with COVID19. There is a responsibility for humanity to do what's the best for everyone. An infectious disease has the ability to wipe out civilization as we know it. Poking an infectious disease like COVID19 is a big bear.

    I've taken care of people infected with COVID19. So I understand it's impact on people. Maybe you would think differently if you witnessed or experienced the impact yourself? My advice is not to take it lightly. There isn't enough known about COVID19 yet to keep poking that bear. Will it mutate into something worse? Can heard immunity be developed? Do antibodies last and how long? Will it disappear never to return? Will we have to live with COVID19 like the flu? Only time will tell.

    One of the best ways to eliminate the threat of an infectious disease like COVID19 is not to spread the disease. No one's ever seen a disease like COVID19. We need to proceed with caution. Proceeding with caution is something that many people are not doing.
     
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  14. Steel_Elvis

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    Just to be clear, that's not what I meant at all. What I meant is that credible medical scientists need to see data before drawing conclusions, as they should. What you said is disrespectful to the medical/scientific community, and paints them as villains.
     
  15. thorn058

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    I was hopeful that they could find a way some how to restart sports but when I see 23 members of the Clemson football team tested positive and it isnt even during game play. I don't see how they are going to make this work.
     
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  16. bigbenhotness

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    The political correctness is almost as bad as covid lol. I say NFL will be cancelled.

    be safe everyone
     
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  17. Wardismvp

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    You also have a governor that fudges the numbers. You are in a crisis, and don't
    have the governor or public perception to lead you out of it. People don't need to die
    at this rate. Texas is in a similar fate.
     
  18. Wardismvp

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    You are probably right I never had much faith Football would get through this
    year. You are a resident of Travis or Bexar county in Texas, Travis county and (Allegheny county Pgh) are
    similar size county's 1,2 million yet Travis county has double the cases. What is going on at that 6th street experience?
     
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  19. Wardismvp

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    I am 6o and just learned this week that I will be losing my job
    in 60 days. I am fortunate that I have no underlying health conditions
    but my GF that lives with me does, she also takes care of her 84 year old mother.
    We have been cautious, but I maybe exposed to more risk if I am lucky enough to secure
    another job. which I will need until I am old enough to collect SS.
     
  20. jeh1856

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  21. steel machine

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    Good luck to you fellow Steeler fan!!!!!
     
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  22. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for your troubles and I wish you the best of luck.
     
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  23. BURGH43STEL

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    China shut down schools and cancelled flights in Beijing. China knows how serious this can be. China had people dying in waiting rooms.

    Many Americans don't realize how COVID19 can overwhelm healthcare systems to the point where people can't get proper treatment. I am thankful that things have settled down in the Philadelphia area.

    People don't seem to understand that they can carry asymptomatic COVID19 and spread it to others.

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    Mod Edit: Talk about the virus, it’s effects on the NFL and society but anything political will be deleted.
     
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  24. KnoxVegasSteel

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    Not disputing anything you wrote. Just wanted to say that CA and TX have not peaked yet and are contributing the highest state by state numbers to daily cases. They also happen to be the most populous states in the nation. 5 states - CA, TX, FL, AZ, NC are contributing over 1/2 the daily cases. What do these 5 states have in common and why are they going up so fast?
     
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  25. Roonatic

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    I think everyone is fudging the #s to procure & meet their sponsors needs & wants. It's unfortunate but not new...:rolleyes:

    I'm a little behind you & Vox Ferrum in age with diabetes. Fortunately I'm in very good health (it's not as easy anymore as it was, lol). Best of luck to all that have this pandemic affecting their families & livelihood.
     
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