Bud Dupree is the perfect candidate for a one-year tag

Sorry but the Butler/Porter thing makes no sense. Butler was and is the DC. He has control over the entire D and had been a LB coach for years. The OLB doesn’t coach in a bubble. So Butler had no say and no time to make adjustments in Duprees game? It was only when he was given the shared job title of DC/OLB coach he could of made those adjustments? They spend time with the players every day at practice. There was ample opportunity in the last 5 years to give his input. Dupree probably was healthy for a entire season and he had the extra incentive of playing for a contract. Those are the 2 factors of why he made the jump. So if people want to use health as a excuse that would also mean they are saying he has only been healthy for 1 full season. That is alarming in itself....

 

Porter wasn't good at his job, so having a competent OLB coach did make a difference, Watt and Dupree aren't dropping into coverage which means more chances to make plays.

 

They kept Feiler, Hilton, Banner, free agency isn't over maybe they will sign a NT or a safety. Or they prefer to fill the NT position in the draft, they found Hargrave in the mid round they can find his replacement the same way.

 

So that must certainly mean Butler is a incompetent DC who also as LB coach for years and years didn’t make the necessary adjustments in Dupree. Yes they aren’t dropping into coverage as much. Who do you think is responsible for that, the OLB coach or the DC? Hint: It’s the DC. So any change in philosophy from one year to the next falls on him not the OLB coach. Do you think Porter was in charge of scheme?

 

He should've made the Pro Bowl last season, if he gets 12-13 sacks and continues to play the run then the money was worth it.

 

Yes they did but at what cost that is the point we just pushed money down the road, like you said in another thread SB or bust this year. It didn't have to be like that if we let Bud walk.

 

One more point you said they found Digger in the 3rd round and they can find his replacement there. Ok using that way of thinking, we found Bud in the first round and this draft class is loaded at edge rushers so we should be able to find his replacement there at a whole lot less that 15.8 mil, right??????????????

 

The premise of that discussion is flawed. You are assuming that the Steelers would get similar production from inferior players. An honest look at the entire resume for Fackrell and Dupree clearly demonstrates that Dupree is the better player and more likely to continue to produce more going forward. Dupree wasn't completely useless before last season. He was medicore. Fackrell was useless last season. He was Chickillo, but worse, and he really wasn't any better his first two seasons. Even his career year in 2018 wasn't as good as Dupree's 2019 once you look beyond just the sack numbers. He also lacks the same physical tools. There are good reasons Fackrell was a third-round pick who now got a relatively small contract in free agency while Dupree was a first-round pick who just got a franchise tag.

 

That is all I have..................... Not gonna keep going back and forth with you as you refuse to see anything other than Super Bud!!!!!!

 

Matakevich was able to flash on special teams, too. Why aren't you complaining about letting him leave? Doesn't he just need more snaps, too?

The guys who only get to pinch hit are in that role because they aren't good enough to start. This is a merit-based system. Even after his supposed breakout in 2018, the Packers went out and got help so they didn't have to start Fackrell and he went right back to the bench.

I never even considered that they might take Edmunds in the first round because he was a third-round value. When people asked who the Steelers should have taken, Leonard was an easy choice. He was the next inside linebacker on the board and a better prospect than Edmunds. I have asked nicely. Please stop misrepresenting my posts.

Do you see me saying the Steelers need to give up on Edmunds? They should replace him if they can because right now, he is the weak link on a very good defense. He makes almost no impact plays and he gives them up far too often because he can't adjust to the ball in the air.

You really think the Steelers went with Dupree for five years just so the front office could save face? You're funny.

You absolutely went after a gotcha moment. You kept hammering away at it until I proved my words were correct. Dupree did show flashes of his talent from his very first game. He did it within his first 26 snaps as a pro.

 

I have never said anything that would suggest there is anything super about him. What I am doing is reasonably pointing out why he is the best option for right now. In fact, I've said I don't want them to sign him to an extension. I want this to be a one-year thing. If you are going to reflect my point of view, please do so accurately.

 

One major difference there being that the Steelers don't have a first-round pick, which would be the equivalent round to find Dupree's replacement.

 

He kept his narrow, twisted point over and over again. He wanted the gotcha. Then I proved that Dupree did actually flash within his first 62 NFL snaps. He actually did it in his first game. It was an attempt at a gotcha that failed.

 

Give it a rest man...you asked nicely? What are you prepared to do about it? Give me a break! Take a look in the mirror and see why no one wants to get in these discussions with you....Hint: it’s not everyone else...it’s you.
Since you are ill prepared to do anything about me misrepresenting you, I would say your best course of action is having the self control not to respond to my posts or block me. I come here to share thoughts, opinions and have fun. You come here for the sole purpose of pushing your opinions as fact and thinking you’re right all the time...your not! I’m not the first one to tell you this either. Get over yourself.....

 

Using four years misrepresents the information we have at our disposal and it is a manipulation designed to unfairly bolster one side of the discussion. It conveniently eliminates the best season of Dupree's career. The Steelers were wise enough to make a decision based on all the information available, not an inaccurate and incomplete version of the facts.

I did plenty of research. Most rankings had Edmunds as a second or third round value. He wasn't a first. He was a reach. He's been proving that for two seasons as a pro.

Of course, the whole Edmunds thing is a distraction. The real issue is Dupree and this silly idea that Fackrell is a comparable player. He isn't. An honest look at all the information makes that clear.

 

I come here to discuss the Steelers. You are the one making it personal right now. This is a message board. All I can do is ask nicely, but you are choosing instead to misrepresent what I wrote while I am attempting to correctly reflect what you write. If I fail to do that, by all means, tell me.

The entire point of this is to exchange ideas. I support mine with evidence and I speak up when I see something that doesn't make sense. I am sorry if that troubles you.

 

Yup and you haven’t had a hundred of these confrontations here before and been called out for it on multiple occasions. Yup must be everybody else... can’t possibly be you. Again you can ask all you want . I’ll do me and you do you....

 

It is possible that Porter was pushing things that worked for himself, but they didn't work for Dupree. Maybe the renewed focus on the outside linebackers helped Butler spot some things that helped Dupree. Maybe it helped convince him to let Dupree go after the quarterback more. Maybe it was actually irrelevant. There are many possible reasons why Dupree had his best season. Two of them, the improved defense around him and the incentive of playing for a new contract, are both still in play for 2020. The latter is the beauty of the franchise tag.

 

I'll talk about the Steelers. You, apparently, will talk about me. That doesn't seem like the best approach, but you do you.

 

Dude first off stop telling me what to do I am not one of your little students.....I wish I was and I will leave it at that. What you are doing is "reeasonably pointing out" you OPINION! You refuse to look at it any other way and that is fine I am just done going back and forth with you about it. You and I both have OPINIONS neither of us have facts on if Frackell OR ANYBODY ELSE WE HAVE MENTIONED could put up numbers similar if not the same as Bud or if Bud can repete his one great year. Now that right there is ACCURATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Maybe they trade up you ever think of that????? There you go again tunnel vision, the Scribe way or no way. This is why most don't like to respond to you.............

 

Exactly. There is no reason to believe that Dupree will drop off now the way Woodley did. Woodley had a long-term deal. Dupree has the franchise tag.

Sometimes big contracts don't work out. It made sense at the time to give Woodley big money. He had been a dominant player for a while at that point. Just because he then got lazy doesn't mean every player will do that.

 

Yup that’s exactly what I intend to do. I’ll be over in the draft room sharing my thoughts. Maybe you should stop in before the draft and share yours...but you do you.

 

If that helps you sleep at night have at it............ Hey @thesteeldeal you failed, you may need to go see someone about that........

 

Maybe if my teachers had prepared me better. You know since they know everything.....