Clock Management

Point taken, but I said one of the issues. The unbalanced effort I feel is a reason. To many attempts. Establishing the run takes pressure away, it's a mentality. You can point to the O Line for that. Hell without the fake FG for a TD it would have been 24 to 10. 462 yards passing and 10 points. Yea, I guess all those fantasy junkies loved that. They can power run the ball. It's high time they get back to it to lessen Ben's attempts. The previous week Ben had 47 attempts with 9 carries for Conner. And some are blaming Conner, what a joke.

 

Ben puts up wins. Ben is also not the reason we haven’t sniffed the super bowl lately.
2017 vs Jagoffs - no defense
2016 vs Patoffs - Bell goes down, no defense
2015 vs Bronco-offs - No Brown or Bell, no one able to catch the ball
2014 vs Rat-offs - no Bell, no one able to carry the ball, poor o-line play

In each of those games, Ben has 63% or better completion percentage. Clearly the Win loss record over lass 9 playoff games is worse than the previous 13. But Ben’s performance hasn’t been far from his overall in those games. The difference was a defense and a running game.

Furthermore, Ben is putting up the wins. Including yesterday, Over last 3 seasons, Ben is 29-10-1, that’s a .735 winning percentage.

By comparison:
Brees 27-11
Rodgers 18-15-1
Wilson 25-17-1
Brady 32-7
A Smith 26-14
Newton 23-18
Prescott 28-15

I could go on, but other than Tom Terrific, over the last three years, who is better?

 

I agree CK as for running the ball what is your thoughts about how the middle seams to be no good and the outside is open and we don't go there enough?

 

Listen I am not gonna kill Ben's career he has been good but he is not great when it counts. You can put up all the numbers you want and point out any injury you want but all teams have them. The fact remains since our last SB which was a loss and Ben had a 77 rating compared to his counter part Rodgers's 111, Ben hasn't been able to carry us. We are 3-5 since that time in the playoffs and in them wins we didn't score a TD in one of them(KC) and oh by the way that game LB was 30 for 170 and AB was 6 for 108....Ben another 72 rating. Another win we needed a complete melt down from the Bengals D to come from behind....vs a back up QB. The 3rd win Ben was awesome vs the Dolphins, I am not putting it all on Ben I am well aware how bad this defense is I am well aware how many injuries we have had.

We are a team built on offense, when people talk about the Steelers they talk about the powerful offense not the steel curtain anymore. With that said the offense has to step up and lead this team and it hasn't and it starts with Ben, it don't end there and I am not solely blaming him. However when you are getting pain double and triple of most people on this team you are expected to be able to do something special.

I get what your saying and I agree to a point, year Ben has been good he just hasn't been great when we needed him. Being good just isn't enough when you are a team many pick each and every year. It is a slippery slope cause most would kill for this kind of production I just see how good Ben and this team is and how great they could be and that makes me upset. Maybe after a tough loss isn't the time to put my opinion down but I did and I stand by it.........

 

Ben’s career passer rating:
Regular season = 94.1
Postseason = 86.5

He’s bested his career rating in the postseason 10 times (8-2).
Half of those ten are before 2011.
In the past 5 years, he’s played 7 postseason games (3-4), with an average passer rating of 87.7.

Ben’s career 4Q comebacks & game-winning drives:
Regular season = 31 4QC (31/209=15%), 41 GWD (41/209=20%)
Postseason = 3 4QC (3/21=14%), 4 GWD (4/21=19%)

(He posted one 4th-quarter come-from-behind/game-winning drive in seven postseason games (14%), but it was the CIN game where Burfict/Adams gifted us field-goal range.)

 

To many predictable up the middle attempts I agree, use more off tackle. Ben is at his best when the run game is working. To many attempts equals mistakes. Going forward they need to stay committed to running the football. Obviously this all goes out the window if in so they get down in the scoring department but then mistakes seem to be made. Ben is a great QB but we all live and die with his gunslinger mentality.

 

As somebody else already pointed out, Roethlisberger threw four balls that should have been touchdowns but only one was caught. Grimble should have scored on the fumble. McDonald had one go through his hands before the fake field goal touchdown. Washington scores if he runs through the ball rather than diving.

Roethlisberger was far from perfect. Both interceptions are bad decisions and there is no way he should miss a receiver who is wide open the way Smith-Schuster was on the first drive of the third quarter. That said, let's not blame him for mistakes by other players.

 

Yeah I agree but I will say this Conner can break one and go 40 yds. I think keeping the defense off balance will only help Ben slice them up.

 

Yes and all that you said we still had a chance to tie the game up and bam Ben happened.........

 

Well, actually now that you say it - take away 2 of the items I mentioned (not the TO's) and we win... even with that -4.

 

Over the last 3 seasons, (I'm guessing) Ben leads that list of QB's in another important stat: Interceptions.

 

But we didn't win........so does it matter?

 

I agree with you, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that it was a sloppy effort all around, and it's impossible to point out just specific items to say that was why we lost. It was a team effort.