How concerned are you about the Steelers pass defense?

There is some Offense coming out of the NFC. Patriots D could struggle.

 

Contradict much?

 

How is talented and rocket science a contradiction. He can run,he can jump, he knows routes, he plays in open space all the time .Thus equals talent.

Article states read the QB and react . How is that rocket science ? Well, for Mike it appears to be, but for most NFL players it should not be.

 

Not cause he could either.

 

It’s pretty plain and simple!Our defense has struggled this year with some good moments at times during the season.I watch other teams db’s and at least they are somewhere near the receiver even if he makes a catch!Watch the tape and only Hayden is usually somewhere close to his man!The other db’s (other than Hilton)are not even close to where they are supposed to be!Most would be 2nd or third string on other teams!I’m a very positive poster but the glaring weaknesses in the secondary is huge!We can get seven but feel our offense has to be clicking on all cylinders (which can be done with our personal).Red zone touchdowns are a must instead of bogging down at the twenty yard line to frequently!Like in my last post 30-35 points a game in the next three games would be great as my confidence in our defenses consistency is low! To those who are already conceding the trophy to the Pats,not so fast as we have the ability to outscore them in a high scoring game!!!

 

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/01/film-room-steelers-defense-falls-prey-mistakes/

Look at the comment by Alex .
Alex Kozora Mod The Chin • 44 minutes ago


He's not too far. He is single high. He broke when Gordon declared the route. But yeah, Mitchell doesn't have the athleticism anymore to be able to rally. But the safety is always going to trail. You're asking him to just guess.

• The best Athlete on the Team is DHB as far as speed goes for sure . If we want to run the single high get a guy who has the speed to close and the ability to jump . Mike sees the play , but doesn't have enough talent to stop it . DHB has the talent give him a shot and see if he can see the play. At least he has the talent needed .

 

Steelers have 3 out of the 4 DB's who are in constant lack of ability to get to locations and know what they are doing. Sean Davis is constantly in confusion mode. You can see it on so many plays. Mike Mitchell can't run. His ankle injury has debilitated him even more.

 

Davis plays pretty good in the box so better to keep him near the LOS . Get Mike off the field and try DHB . If DHB fails just go cover 0 . Mike has proved he can't help over the top it is way past time to try something else.

I saw the Safety spot as a huge problems years ago . How good could DHB be now had they been working him at that spot years ago ?My ideal is not the problem.The problem is they had faith in Safety play that simply can't get the job done .

 

You don't experiment this time of the season with converting a WR to safety, I don't care how fast and athletic he is.

 

What you see as an experiment i see as a possible solution to a problem. Going into a game knowing you have a problem and doing nothing to solve it is a weaker option IMO. The worse thing that could happen is it wont work. We already know that playing Mike won't work.At least I already know that.

 

In a vertical passing league, that won't work. It worked in the late 2000's and before but after the turn of the decade, the LOS safety is not realistic on a game by game basis, especially, if they are playing an elite QB. It is one of the reasons why Troy's career hit the wall so fast. Once Troy's speed and power started to decline, he couldn't do what so many others did before him and adjust to his lack of speed and power and be a Rod Woodson or Ronnie Lott to end his career. Troy's game was LOS and all over the place, not Ball Hawk for 60 min. So once he couldn't do that, it was over for him.

A prime Ed Reed and Sean Taylor is what a defense needs in today's NFL passing. There is a reason why Brady always carved the Steelers defense even when Troy was in his prime versus when the Patriots would play the Ravens. Ed Reed was the guy that shut down the vertical. Troy's game wasn't as a ball hawk, it was as a disruptive force all over the field so all Brady did was get the ball out quick and away from Troy. The only times I saw the Steelers handle the Patriots was when they had a healthy team, at home and they played man.

The next evolution of defense is going to be interesting. You had the Seahawks adjust to the new rules and passing but it took massive amounts of talent to do so. They had the ability to have that talent for 2 reasons, one is they drafted well but the clincher was drafting a franchise QB in the 3rd round who collected 400k for 4 years so that the money could be put into the other areas. If you do not have the talent, the rules do not allow you to be dominate. With the hard cap and rules, I wonder if the NFL will ever have a dominate defense again. Unless you have a Von Miller have a Lawrence Taylor type season like in 2015, it doesn't seem like a defense can make that much of a difference in a 60 min game. You have too many lousy QB's throwing for 4,000 yards and making 20 mil per who have no business making that kind of money. The more of that you have, the less talent on defense and anywhere else can make the money.

 

You make some very valid points . IMO the Single high is the next evolution of the game or a big part of it . IMO the Single High guy must be a Center field type guy first.Like Jabril Peppers. Maybe the box guy is more LB than Safety ? A guy who can play the run very well and also be able to cover .

My thought process is more and bigger DL and smaller and quicker types behind them. I can see a future for 5-1-5 types of Defenses with only 1 true run stopper to clog the middle with the other 4 DB'S in the box with 1 guy deep . You could call it a 5-5-1 but it would really be a 1 LB and 5 DB'S .

The huge key will be how to stop the quick pass and slow down the run . It would be more based on big plays . As such using WR types as DB'S could offer more of that ability .No doubt about giving up more big plays but would also offer the ability to create more big plays.

I do agree that almost everything is tilted in favor of the Offense and it's going to be very hard for a Defense to be dominate . As stated my approach would be more aggressive and look for timely plays .

 

Possible, but I’m not to happy with any of the pass defense regardless of if it’s Mitchell or not. When we enter the playoffs the last thing you want is a suspect pass defense. As you know we’re going against the best of the best in the playoffs. I mean DeShone Kiser threw all over our pass defense. Mitchell, Davis, Burns, or Gay you don’t know what your going to get from them game to game.

 

Mike Mitchell is so bad he is truly like playing one man down every snap. Way too slow to be affective free saftey.

 

Yeah, I know but it was just to show how desperate we are for good Safety play.

 

My plan would be surround Landry Jones with all the weapons you can and solidify the defense. IMO, LJ played good for a backup who didn't have three of his offensive lineman, star WR and RB. His rating was 100 and 80% completion rate. Not his fault he was with his third string center.

 

Kiser (twice) Brissett, Hundley have good to great games against you....your pass defense is suspect. Regardless of the stats. The tape doesn't lie.

 

I don’t care how much fight is in a chihuahua, he’s still going to get his butt kicked by the big dogs.

 

This would fit their typical MO.

 

yea, that safety talk is way out there. He played WR and LB in high school. Should have moved to ILB when Shazier went down. Can you spell hybrid!! DHB is GOAT.

 

Only Larry Allen in his prime...

 

just razzin' yea PWP... we've seen the converts before like AV and Nix. I just think you have to get to those guys earlier in their career.