The Walking Dead (no comics spoilers)

Here's the problem with that though. Before she met Abraham, she presumably had a family she lost, didn't go off the deep end there.

Saw all kinds of stuff coming across country, ran into cannibals and all manner of near death experiences and didn't go off the deep end.

She loses her man to another woman and then that man gets killed and decides she's had enough and logic goes out the window.

 

Ehh, so she learns another lesson and gets another person killed and another one taken hostage and thinks, "Meh, let's go try again! If we fail so what!"

I just wish the main group would actually learn from their rash behavior and grow as characters. At this point the show should be hinting at some of those lessons learned. "Hey remember last time "X" happened so let's do "X" this time." They did this episode (Twice), but then threw it away anyway.

First with Richone and the roof, then with Rosita and Gabriel.

As it stands now every car drive scene they have dialog while staring at each other and inevitably end up missing something important or hitting something.

 

I think for me, it's also that Christian Serratos' acting has become very flat and wooden for the type of "angst" she's trying to portray. Someone might try to argue that it's portraying grittiness or deadness of emotion, but having a good bit of theater and acting background, I think it's just bad acting, and it just adds to the annoyance of her character.

 

I thought the Rosasha (or Sashita?) episode was fair. My wife kept telling me she was so bored she couldn't stay awake, but I think I liked it a little better than she did.

However, it emphasized one of the ongoing problems; spreading the main group out so far has made things less intense. Even though I know Maggie is at Hilltop, and Hilltop is mentioned here and there, we hadn't actually seen Hilltop for some time (until the end of the previous episode). So when I saw Maggie, I was like, "Oh yeah, I forgot about her and how much she must be upset about Glenn." It should never feel like that for a major character.

I at least thought the interplay between Gregory and Simon was kind of interesting.

 

I haven't watched in about a month so I had a bit of a backlog to get through.
I am convinced Eugene is playing Negan. He knows that Negan is a narcissist at heart, so he's doing whatever he can to cozy up to him. I imagine that Eugene was the victim of bullying in his childhood, so he knows exactly what to do to a bully.
Eugene is doing his part. He's gaining more freedom within the Saviors, and as such he can do more. His loading up the fence with walkers and pouring metal on them isn't about making their complex more secure. It's the exact opposite, in fact. He knows that with the metal armored walkers they're going to become too heavy for the fence and bring it down.
One other side note, I love the fact that he's playing Yars Revenge.

Gregory I can't quite figure out. He's a weasel for sure. And why he hasn't told the henchman about Daryl I honestly don't know. Unless he doesn't want retaliation from the Saviors. I don't expect Gregory to last much longer, actually. Someone is going to kill him. I just haven't pieced together who that will be. Or maybe he gets an injury and can't be healed properly since there's no doctor.

I'm pretty sure that who Rosita saw at the end of the episode wasn't Daryl though. I'm thinking it's actually Dwight, and he will help her escape.

As for the future, you think that they would have to go back to Oceanside at some point. Maybe the Oceansiders have "captured" Heath, and he can prove to them that the Alexandrians are stand up people, and they can trust them.

 

all I have to say is watch the "Next Week on". Someone spoiled it for me so I already know what the major plot point is for next week.

 

ok, I`ve just skimmed thru the last few pages on this thread...

I`m still into this show...

I expect the "season finale", to be a cliff hanger..

What I want to know, that no one has asked, is...

Can we trust Janis(or whatever her name is), that leads the "junkyard gang" to fight WITH rick, and company????

I loved the "bartering", between her and Rick, about 10 guns, no 20 guns, etc, at the end of the episode a few weeks ago...

What bothered me was,


Why would you give them all those guns,
when you can`t really trust them...

Rick was smart, to only give the SOME guns, but dumb, to give them ANY guns, after she said they weren`t enough guns...
To me, you are giving them weapons they could use against your people, after they went back on their word, that they would fight with you/for you, if you brought them guns...

I just don`t trust those people...
Rick lived up to his end of the bargain, and then they changed the rules?!?(Not enough guns...)

NO!!!

I couldn`t trust them to have my back, in a fight!!!

 

Well there have been 6 posts since the last 2 shows, that tells me just how far this show has fallen. Again I watch every week but I am no longer excited about it, the wife is done watching and the son is just about ready to. I know the season is about to wrap up so things should pick up so I am sure I will be all happy again but right now this show is nothing special for me right now........

 

Yup, it's just not a serious TV drama. It could have been, but now I just watch for the "LOL's" and to see where they're going with it.

They seem to have gotten themselves into the problem of spreading the core group out and losing the chemistry that made it all work.

I applaud that they had no hesitation to kill off beloved cast, but you can't keep doing it and expect the show to replace them with the cardboard cutouts the fans just don't care about.

 

Sorry blast you can say what you want but seriously how many show do you watch where the main characters are not in it. NCIS is doing pretty good showing the same stuff, they have been a top show for what 13 season? And guess what I bet I can count on one hand how many times Gibbs was not shown. This season has been like that and it sucks, maybe not to you and that is fine you are one of the few that are liking it. Anything I read on facebook fans are complaining and look at the ratings they keep going down. I am still watching every week but the greatness has worn off. I know they are gonna turn it up in these last few to get us to come back so at least you won't have to read all us complain anymore....

 

I`m still looking forward to the new episodes...

I do wish they would "pick up the pace" a bit, but, it is what it is...

Realistically, I can`t understand why someone in Negan`s own crew, wouldn`t have taken him out by now,
(he has to sleep sometime, and he`s screwed over plenty of his "followers" already)...

or Carl wouldn`t have taken the shot,

or Lucille would have saved him from Rosita`s bullet...

But it`s TV... and all of that would have been boring...

Apparentley, in the comics, Negan broke down all of his followers, psychologically, like we saw with Daryl, and Eugene, but they didn`t show it on tv...

Whatever, It`s still fun to watch, and no matter how much I hate "cliffhangers",

That is what attracted me to the show, in the first place,

It was the "old school thing", with never knowing who was safe from dying, and who wasn`t, and the cliffhanger endings...

The "shock scenes", where a main character got killed, without menacing background music, foreshadowing the death...


They`ve kinda got away from that, and they tend to get "too cute", with playing with the audience, sometimes...

But it`s still a damn good show, IMHO...

I just wonder if we can suggest some "Mythbusters" episodes, as a fanbase of Walking Dead Fans...

Flood them with suggestions, like if Glenn could hide under a dumpster, etc...

Whatever your most unbelievable moments from the show are...

Like Hershel`s neverending shotgun magazine, when the Farm was overrun... etc.. etc.. there`s a million of `em...

Whatever we have pointed out here, as being "unrealistic"(in a Zombie Apocaylpse)...

Ask the "Mythbusters", to try em out..LOL...

I know the original series is done, but I see they are trying to do it again with new "Mythbusters"...

 

You're comparing apples to oranges. NCIS is a police procedural drama where every episode (generally speaking) is a new event. A crime is committed, leads followed, arrest made and it's all wrapped up nice and neat in 37 minutes. The fact ncis is still on tv after 13 years of the same mind numbing formulaic crap says more about the viewing audience than it being a great show.

 

Well I guess you guys missed my point in the whole thing, forget NCIS pick any show...any. The main characters are in it every episode, that is my point and problem with this season.

As far as the farm goes, I didn't have a problem with it cause they were still being shown. This season imo has spent so much time covering the surrounding level b and c characters. Dude I am being real I want Daryl, Rick, Michonne, Maggie, Carl, Morgan, and yes Carol. I don't want a whole show on Sasha, Tara, Gaberial etc.

Now I get we have to have back story I am fine with that IMO it could have done a ton better. And like i have said a Negan backstory would have been awesome, I feel they missed the boat here.

Now again I am going to say I watch every week(and even right now) but the greatness of this show on me, my wife, son and many many coworkers has worn off due to this season slowness.

I did say the ratings are down and I did find this interesting tid bit, kinda cool:


While The Walking Dead is still the most-watched Sunday series, and highest rated, it’s still a shame numbers are this slow after what we have seen the show has achieved.

The last time numbers were so low was way back in 2012, with Season 3, episode 6.

Check out the numbers so far for the back-half of Season 7:

• Episode 9: 12 million
• Episode 10: 11.08 million
• Episode 11: 10.42 million
• Episode 12: 10.16 million
• Episode 13: 10.68 million
• Episode 14: 10.32 million

Two are only three episodes remaining in Season 7! The excitement of the upcoming Rick vs Negan war is sure to bring viewers back!


I think this kinda sums me up for sure, and like I said prior things are gonna get good so all us whiners will be piping down soon.....lol!

Going to get the popcorn.....

 

Is one example enough for you? Lost. Fractured groups, character centric episodes etc. pretty much the same thing that is going on with the walking dead.

I'm honestly not sure why you continue to watch the show. You clearly don't enjoy it anymore. The writers, producer, director et al have put together a very good show. Since it doesn't fit into the mold of your preference don't watch. It's far easier than coming in here after every episode and complaining about it.

 

Here's a little something for ny to chew on.