A Question To Each Side...

I honestly would be surprised to see the Rooney's go with an old timer. Someone around Gruden's age I could see but someone that's like in their 60's I'd say would be a stretch. Just doesn't seem like their style.

 

Yeah I despise the gnats but given who they're playing I'm hoping they get it done tonight. Sucks that Beckham had a td though.

 

I'm not sure anyone here suggested BB nor that we'd be dominant after Tomlin. I don't speak for all Steelers fans but I'd be committed to a full rebuild (of losing football with young players) as long as the coach has a plan; and is consistant with both his plan and his roster/draft moves. If it takes a few years to see progression then sign me up. I can be paitient as long as there is step by step progression

I read people here all the time say "what if we hire a dud" I think a lot of people here are selling the Rooney's short when they forget that they are pretty good at evaluating coaches.

 

Call now for Cowher

 

I am a supporter.

main reason is because he is the coach at the moment. lol seriously though, I support him because I think he a good coach. to put it simply. look every fan base grips about their coach. I know pats fans who grip about bill.
in order for me personally to want to make a change this team would have to show signs of giving up. now, this is the first year I can remember that is a possibility. but look. we still can win 11 games. we can probably still lose 1, beat the ravens and bengals and win division.

all the goals are still there. if that happens then does tomlin get credit or do the players get the bulk of it? I ask because he is getting the bulk of the blame. rightly so, he is the head man. but we went through this with cowher as well. some younger fans may just remember the super bowl and don't realize that cowhers teams underachieved just as much.imo

I trust the rooneys. so if they still think he is the man for the job then I will continue to support him. I will admit that sometimes it gets hard to. but for me sunday was not one of those times. the 2 point converstion thing does not bother me because if we execute and make them. the opinion is completely different. he doesn't know the outcome of any play so I am sure he has faith in his team. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with a defense that plays like high schoolers

then there are the press conferences. people seem to hate him for that. who cares what he says in front of the camera. I would rather him give them the catch phrases than talk about stuff that should stay in the locker room. its all feeding the 24 hour sports stations anyway. I love it

 

Alright Blount. I am here to give you my response as the issues have been corrected!


Currently as it stands, I am a supporter of Tomlin. One of the best in the business and has not had a losing season thus far; not to mention he can become one of the youngest coaches ever in the game to win 100 games. Last season showcased to all of us that he does have the capacity to turn even the most putrid of situations and create lemonade without the key players.




This season is different no doubt in many ways. Players not performing up to expectations is the main glaring issue currently. If players like Stephon Tuitt and David DeCastro play to the level of their abilities then this would be a different scenario altogether. Within the same token, most of the "trendy picks" have had their issues as well. Green Bay is too inconsistent themselves, Minnesota is in a death spiral, Philadelphia is back but now has to go through Dallas, and New England truly is no longer the infallible juggernaut we thought they were. In short, the entire league really does not look all that well sans "America's Team".





Now, for me to become a Tomlin detractor is going to take far more than just a loss to Cleveland should it happen; nevermind the heart breaker to Dallas. For me to no longer support Tomlin would have to yield a cataclysmic end to this season by losing out and another poor showcasing of next season as well; key injuries to players, lack of execution or otherwise. This will be more than enough information to draw two different conclusions;



1.) The players are no longer invested in Tomlins coaching superlatives the as the narrative has worn out its welcome.


Or


2.) The entire team is fragmented to the point of suffering a total collapse showcasing Tomlin has lost the team.

 

Would Bill bring Brady with him?

 

You do know Ben is almost 35 years old, I doubt he's in for a full rebuild. This team has a window of about 3 years to try and win a Super Bowl, the Rooney's aren't going for a rebuild.

 

Ben at 35 needs a competent head coach and consistency coming somewhere. He's not getting help so this likely isn't getting fixed overnight.

 

It would be the biggest disappointment if Ben didn't get a third ring with the most talent he's ever had in AB, Bell, Martavis (When not sus.) and Coates. Ben has 3 maybe four years left in the tank, so lets get to drafting some franchise defensive players and lets get to it.

 

Ben also won't stick around for a rebuild.

 

Agreed. But He won't stick around for mediocrity either.

 

With saying this, draft a QB in a somewhat early round (Because anything is better than Landry Jones) and let him learn and grow under Ben for a few years.

 

I would agree with you that Tomlin is one of the best in the business 1-2 years ago, but it's unacceptable for a team with as much talent as the Steelers to have a losing record to teams under .500 since 2012. You could even make the case that Tomlin only made it to two Super Bowls and win one because they were mainly Cowher's players.
Also, the players don't sound to be that much invested in him anymore due to the fact that Ben has called him out twice and Leveon has once this season. Interesting to see where this will go...

 

Question is where does the defense go now that Cameron Heyward is out? Even when Heyward was in, Tuitt is a ghost. To combat this issue, common sense dictates an interior presence to compensate for the lack of down time that either Heyward or Tuitt obtain. Add the fact that an edge Rusher, a cornerback and safety are also needs for the defense and the 1st pick of the team gets more complicated.

 

I was thinking the same thing. However, if someone like Malik McDowell from Michigan State comes along and there are no other edge rushing options available... that would be interesting. Then again, Jalen "Teez" Tabor being wherever Pittsburgh is slotted would also be quite intriguing considering he is essentially Marcus Peters 2.0.

 

I don't really think we need to consider cornerback early in the draft. I know, I know...just typing that seems strange, but Cockrell is a player. Burns looks like he will pan out. If Golson ever plays a snap in the NFL, his skill set seems like a fit for the slot. That leaves Willie Gay and Justin Gilbert for depth. If Gilbert ever gets it together as a pro, we may not even need to draft a corner at all next year.

Now safeties on the other hand? Could be the first round pick next year or could be addressed in free agency. Anyone know which good safeties will be FA next year?

 

Stick a pin in the three previous losses and grade this game simply on its merits. now the ridiculous 2pt conversion attempts aside, this was an entertaining football game and considering what many thought was going to happen they went toe to toe with a great team and didnt blink. The walk off score to win the game came down to youth and inexperience as well as being overly aggressive. I mean does anyone really think Dallas isn't kicking a field goal as time expires to win the game?

 

Yeah - if only we'd spent any high picks on defense recently...

 

What happens if we lose in Cleveland? That would be one of the lowest points in franchise history. I have to think the Rooney's would seriously consider firing him.

 

1.Edge rusher
2.DL depth
3.Safety
I don't think they should draft a CB early, in 2017 they could go with Burns, Golson, Cockrell, and Gilbert.

 

nope
JUST IN THE WRONG FORUM

 

Hope Gilbert is ready by then considering it appears he is not ready this year it seems. As for Golson.... there are far too many hypothetical scenarios with him.


As for your order... I am not too sure if pass rushing may even get the nod currently. As asinine as this sounds, Pittsburgh would currently be drafting at 16. The only player I see would be Tim Williams from Alabama but there are still some character issues from this summer.


In addition, I do not think Pittsburgh will be using 3-4 looks as much anymore given the fact that their 2-4-5 formation is more akin to a 4-2-5 look given how the front seven lines up on the LOS. Should Pittsburgh be transitioning into a 4-3, Tim Williams really is not an attractive option and Derek Barnett is more than likely a top 15 option.


For me, I would shore up the middle of the defense. Again, this does sound crazy, but Lawrence's best days are truly behind him and will Mike Tomlin again repeat history by electing to draft a top tier inside linebacking option over an unproven player in Tyler Matakevich? Sadly.. this could be the case.


In short; do not be surprised if the likes of Zach Cunningham gets picked by Pittsburgh to give Shazier an attack partner and adding an indirect and direct contingency plan if either Heyward, Tuitt or Shazier go down... as Cunningham is not just a thumper, but can rush the passer, has high football IQ, and flies sideline to sideline. I am not stating this will happen, but do not be surprised should this happen.