Golson will NOT play defense this year!

It's just a very well hedged bet.

 

When he comes back there is no assurance he is the #5. He might jump over Gilbert.

 

At 5'9", can Golson even play at the NFL level?? We should've put him on IR...

 

Nobody is confused... We are in the unique situation of having our top backup S staring at nickel CB for us. We have an injury at S, Davis moves back (since they sure as hell aren't putting Shamarko or Dangerfield back there unless they absolutely have to) and the slot CB position is open. Now, maybe they fill it with Gay and move Burns to CB2 and Gilbert to Dime, but even then all it takes is for a CB to miss a single play for Golson to be on the field.

The kid has been injured and hasn't even played a preseason snap. Nobody is expecting him to come in off injury and start or even light the world on fire. But to say that there is no way he plays defense this year is a pretty big reach. Sure, he may not... But the possibility that he does is at least as good as the chance that he doesn't.

They kept him on the roster under the impression that he will be healthy somewhere around the midpoint of the season. There's no playing time expectation. That will be determined by injuries and level of play by both Gomson and the guys in front of him.

 

I disagree with IR right now..... He can easily ride the inactive list. If he is put on IR he can't practice with the team. He was kept on the 53 roster so when he is heathy he can get some practice in with this defense.

Remember , he has ZERO NFL snaps in any kind of game and has been to like only one practice in Two training camps .

Cajun

 

I'm sorry but Golsons playing time is strictly tied to his practice time and how well he knows his assignments. Grant was cut because of missed assignments. Since Golson has no snaps and zero practice time no way Tomlin will put him in the game until he shows he can handle the mental AND physical aspect of the game.

Cajun

 

Gay already moves in to the slot in Dime packages... Artie moves outside... Golden becomes the Mike... and Davis goes to safety.

And it takes it would take a significant injury to get Golson on the field because he wouldnt even be dressed, Gilbert would be. Gilbert has been dressing, has been practicing, and has NFL experience. The scenario you described, doesn't get Golson on the field. It gets Gilbert on the field. That injury would need to stretch in to next week, allowing Golson to dress as the 4th CB. And then in that situation you would need ANOTHER CB to get injured. Right now, you would need TWO Dbs to be injured to get Golson on the field.

 

Bingo
He's on the roster because it's a good use of an inactive spot. The guy needs development reps in practice so an entire year isn't thrown out the window.

Until that 53 man spot is needed for another reason, it makes perfect sense for Golson and has nothing to do with the intention to play him at some point

 

Let's be clear.... I guaranteed nothing. I did make a Bold statement because it's one I truly believe after careful consideration using what little football knowledge I have . I have no crystal ball or inside info either.

I did post a reply saying at the end of the season I'll bs able to count his snaps on my hands and to be clear 5 snaps +\- in a season isn't concidered playing in my book.

Cajun

 

yeah you back pedaled

 

That's the exact scenario I described. It will likely take 2 injuries, but only one has to be more then a game and one can be a safety. That isn't a crazy run on injuries. Guys get knicked up in the NFL all the time.

Basically all I'm trying to say is that if they didn't think there was a reasonable chance that he will see the field at some point this season they would have just put him on IR. They didn't, so you have to believe they feel like he will be healthy enough to go at some point this season. Whether or not he gets snaps remains to be seen, but it's a real possibility.

 

No, I just have never been very good with legalism.

We'll play maybe an avg of 1100 snaps on defense a year so 5 snaps would be maybe 5% of 1% of the total. In your world that's playing defense but not mind.

So for "legalism " sake Golson won't play one snap.. On defense..... And if he does I'll start a thread apologizing and admit how wrong I was and right you were.

Cajun

 

Made up definitions? Has PWP hacked your account?

 

I hear you, but this dudes full of it.

Says he won't play of Defense.

Now he says he"ll play but less than ten plays.

Again says he'll play and he can count the snaps on his hands (5 plays) I guess he's missing fingers cause that math doesn't add up. But again playing isn't considered playing in his book?

Says he'll play , but then says he won't. And again that's some strange math there.


I don't know how much if any Golson will play, but I certainly wouldn't start a thread saying he won't play only to go on and say he'll play just not enough to be considered playing? That's some mind boggling stuff right there.

 

You're still wrong on the 2nd paragraph

 

Not what I wanted. In the OP was a bold statement, crazy to some and logical or feasible to others. I wanted intellectual conversation and/or debate on whether Golson plays this year on defense or not.

Cajun

 

Lol no. No I'm not. But you can think what you want

 

Honestly I don't think a injured CB and Injured safety will get Golson on the field.

Golson is going to be a slot corner. Right now Davis is Playing slot. If he gets hurt Gay moves back to slot and Burns moves into outside corner. Burns or cockrell get injured Gilbert comes in. Gay and Davis both get injured they'll adjust coverages utilizing different types of zones, including but not limited to big nickel. Golden can play the slot/rover type in an emergency.

Even if it were a loss of 3 DBs I believe they'd bring up Shabazz off the PS before playing Golson.

Golson has quite simply had NO snaps in any game action of any kind.... EVER..... And he has not even practiced with this defense..... Practice is just the beginning of learning and he hasn't even done that .... How can he be expected to play in games with no experience or practice? Remember the CB we traded for last year, a successful NFL slot corner that struggled to get snaps.

Think about keeping him on the 53 for a moment. It's the only way he is allowed to practice with the team/secondary. You IR him you shut down his development. He needs all the development and practice he can get so next camp he'll be up to speed and able to legitimately fight for a active roster spot and a chance to actually play and contribute to this team.

Cajun

 

It appears apples and oranges, people are argueing "starting" (what ever that is, you have to ask PWP ) vs "playing". Nobody with a hint of football sees Golson taking over a starting spot. But will he get snaps if he is healthy, absolutely.

So, will he "Play" this year, well apparently the management thinks so, and there is no reason to he won't.

Symantics. A lot of these discussions are just symantics.

 

Who said "starter"?

 

How do you conclude that management thinks Golson will play on defense this year? Did I miss something?

I've listed the very solid reasons why he won't play this year, in my opinion that is.

Cajun

 

The last paragraph is a very valid point. That's a possible scenario for sure. Idk if they'd keep him inactive all year tho. It's still football and he's learned the defense all last year and all year this year so far, he just hasn't gotten on the field. The 5th or 6th DB is gonna take his lumps regardless, so why not put him in? He is a high end talent and was drafted in the second round. If they are willing to roll with Davis (kinda) out of position as a starter, then why not roll with another essential rookie playing the exact position he was drafted to play? It's not like the first week he's active here gonna throw him out there.

I could see either way. I don't think it's a sure fire bet one way or the other.

 

Yes,

Apparently you did miss something, he is on the roster.

You don't put players on the roster who aren't expected to play. Roster spots are valuable.