AB Hangin' With Russell Wilson; Contract Extensions

underpaid. based on what?

 

WRs whose contracts give them a higher annual average pay than Antonio:

AJ Green $15 mill
Alshon Jeffery $14.6 mill
Julio Jones $14.2 mill
Demaryius Thomas $14 mill
Dez Bryant $14 mill
TY Hilton $13 mill
Keenan Allen $11.2 mill
Vincent Jackson $11.1 mill
Larry Fitzgerald $11 mill
Jeremy Maclin $11 mill
Allen Hurns $10 mill
Randall Cobb $10 mill
Jordy Nelson $9.7 mill
Brandon Marshall $8.6 mill
Michael F'n Crabtree $8.5 mill
Pierre Garcon $8.5 mill
ANTONIO BROWN $8.4 mill

WR contracts with the most GUARANTEED money:

Julio Jones $35.5 mill
Demaryius Thomas $35 mill
Dez Bryant $32 mill
AJ Green $26.7 mill
Vincent Jackson $26 mill
Amari Cooper $22.6 mill
Jeremy Maclin $22.5 mill
Larry Fitzgerald $22 mill
Keenan Allen $20.7 mill
Sammy Watkins $20 mill
Justin Blackmon $18.5 mill
Kevin White $16.6 mill
DeSean Jackson $16 mill
Allen Hurns $16 mill
Eric Decker $15 mill
Mike Evans $14.6 mill
Alshon Jeffery $14.6 mill
Mohamed Sanu $14 mill
Pierre Garcon $13.1 mill
Travis Benjamin $13 mill
Marvin Jones $13 mill
Randall Cobb $13 mill
Tavon Austin $12.8 mill
Corey Coleman $11.7 mill
Jordy Nelson $11.5 mill
TY Hilton $11 mill
Devante Parker $10.9 mill
Golden Tate $10.5 mill
OBJ $10.4 mill
Eddie Royal $10 mill
Michael Floyd $10 mill
Josh Doctson $9.4 mill
Laquon Treadwell $9.3 mill
Brandon Marshall $9 mill
Nelson Agholor $8.8 mill
Torrey Smith $8.8 mill
ANTONIO BROWN $8.5 mill

What other questions do you have?

 

that list doesnt answer sh!t

how many of those wr would you want on the steelers roster for their price tag?

 

maybe you will answer my question.
who on that wr list would you want on the steelers with their price tag?

 

It certainly did. Quite literally, actually. It answered your "sh!tty" question.

 

thanks for being honest.
so you believe that most of those players are being over paid then?
thats the point that i am trying to make. just because some teams are foolish enuff to over pay for marginal talent doesnt mean that AB should immediately get paid much more than them.
too many fans want to scream, 'pay the man'. they are too short sighted to see how doing that negatively impacts the team

 

so you would be happy if the steelers paid all those guys that money for their production?
you feel that they are all getting paid appropriately?

 

The value has been set. It doesn't matter if the opinion is that some of those guys are overpaid.
Fact is AB's production is pretty much better than all those guys who make more than him. He's underpaid based on that and I doubt you'll get many people who agree with you on this and for that matter pretty much anything you post.

If you work next to a guy who makes twice as much as you and does half the work how long before you go and complain to the boss and demand a raise?

 

I would argue in AB's case that it would "negatively impact" the team to UNDERpay him because if you do that then he won't be here anymore. AB is one of the few players in the league that is actually truly "worth it". The Rooney's will know this better than anybody and will do right by him.

 

Your arguments do little more than show a complete lack of understanding when it comes to economics.

With the list I provided, anybody with even a thread of common sense would look at that list and think something like, "There is NO WAY Michael Crabtree should be earning more than Antonio Brown!! Not based on their production!" And 99.999% of even the most casual NFL observers would agree with that statement -- you're the .001%.

With your argument, every guy in the league is overpaid simply because you don't think anybody is worth the money they are getting paid. That doesn't make it so. The reality is that the MARKET has determined that that is their VALUE to the marketplace. Obviously, teams have signed those players to those contracts based on the production they believe they will get out of those players. Players are like stocks. Sometimes they perform above and beyond, sometimes they perform as expected, sometimes they underachieve. Teams can only speculate as to what production they'll receive on their investment. We can all speculate about what is overpaid or underpaid but won't know for sure until after we have seen their production. After we have seen their production, we can then look at their contracts and make a decision as to whether we think they are over or underpaid. Again, if common sense prevails, anybody can look at that list and, with the luxury of hindsight, determine who is over/underpaid based on their production.

The market has defined an elite receiver's worth as an average of $14-$15 mill. How do we know that? Well, that handy list (that doesn't prove "sh!t") is where GMs and agents will start. An agent will show a GM that list, then he'll show the GM statistics, then the GM will say, "Damn! Evidence!" and he'll open up his checkbook. What the GM WON'T say is something dumb like, "That list doesn't prove sh!t!" (because we all -- the 99.999% -- know that it does)

 

Not to join this little debate but here goes... these guys are exactly worth their market value because that is what someone was willing to pay them. Seems pretty simple to me. I agree "in my opinion" many are overpaid, however I'm not setting the market value. Truth be known, I think most athletes and actors are overpaid but I'm not handing out the paychecks. Finally, anyone declaring that some of these guys are overvalued as a fact, well, I want to see your team when you try to pay players what you think they are "actually" worth. I'd go to Vegas and place a bet that your team doesn't win one game. I would win enough money to start my own team, have enough left over to pay the players at their market value, and beat your team the following season!

 

LOL
dickhead
LOL
love it
you know what
you kind a cool
sometimes

i agree with you 1000%
on this statement

 

if you are the boss are you going to let that guy do half the work for twice the pay or immediately give the other guy twice as much as him because he is doing twice as much?

 

why would you hate teams that gives out those contracts?
according to you, those contracts arent ridiculous. those players are getting paid exactly what they are worth so now every player that outperforms them instantly deseves more money then them.

 

Huh? He's not saying that no player is worth it. He's just saying that when some moron owner shells out an unreasonable contract then every agent in the league pounces on that and demands it for their guy and before you know it there's a market value for a position that's really out of whack. Like when Dan Snyder gave all that money to Albert Haynesworth. Well we all know that Haynesworth was not worth that but then every other scrub like him is asking for that when really only very few players at that position should actually garner that kind of salary. He's saying it should really be relative to the player in question as opposed to "well everyone else is getting this". Put it this way. If Albert Haynesworth was worth $150 million at the time Snyder gave him that deal then Von Miller must be worth a BILLION now!

 

Underpaid-

To pay less than is usual.

An NFL salary would not be considered usual. Therefore, he would be overpaid.

He has a contract and is paid within those terms. It is usual to pay within the terms of a contract. Therefore he is neither over or underpaid.

Compared to the players on the above lists, and with his talents, he is currently paid less than is usual. Therefore he is underpaid.

The point is, he has a contract and he is paid accordingly. When that contract comes back up, he will again be paid accordingly.

 

jeh what he said

 

I wouldn't pay any of them on the list or brown what we think he might be worth. I'm old school and appreciate the guys that made 10% of what these yahoos do and brought home 4 trophies. That aside, AB is special and will be paid accordingly as such, just hope it'd here... And I hope we don't have to blow up the roster to do it

 

He gets confused a lot.

 

I'm old school too, which I think is just another way of saying I'm old, but you have to pay to play in this life. So, if I'm his boss (your words), I would keep AB @ the best rate I could but top priority. I think they will. They've already shoved some more money his way and more will come. You bet.