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Question about our coordinators.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Spartacus, Jan 2, 2015.

  1. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    6 to be exact. Cowher's last season was 8-8 and that was in 06. So I'm thinking 6yrs.
     
  2. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Right. There was something about only interviewing in the candidate's current town, too, but I can't recall what exactly.
     
  3. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Well, there you go. :smiley1:
     
  4. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    So like the 9ers have to come to HIM? Dang that's pretty weird. I hadn't heard that. I just thought he was gonna fly out there and talk to them. I think the 9ers are talking to Shanahan too though but what if they reached a deal? Is there a time they have to wait to until they announce it?
     
  5. Dreamman0

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    So if I'm following right, if (when) the Steelers keep winning then the first week our coaches could be interviewed would be the Pro Bowl week. Correct?
     
  6. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Unless they could interview in the week before the Super Bowl then yeah probably. Although I'm sure no one would do anything during Super Bowl planning even if it was within the rules though.
     
  7. Dreamman0

    Dreamman0 Well-Known Member

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    Got it. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
     
  8. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I found this...seems accurate.

    • The “Post Season Exception”:

    If an Assistant Coach is coaching in the post-season, all contact is between team
    owners or “operating heads”, and permission must be sought. The Assistant Coach
    must be informed of such interest by the owner/operating head, and he must let the
    owner/operating head know if he’s interested in interviewing for the position. (There
    shall be no other direct or indirect contact between the inquiring club and the Assistant
    Coach whom it desires to interview.)


    If Permission is granted for an interview during the post-season period, then
    1. There can be ONE (1) interview only, and it must be held in the Assistant
    Coach’s home team city;

    2. For teams earning byes during the Wild Card weekend, the interviews of its
    coaches must be conducted before the end of the Wild Card games;

    3. For Assistant Coaches whose team win the Wild Card game, then the
    interviews must be held after the Wild Card game, and before the Divisional
    Playoff game.

    4. NO INTERVIEWS MAY BE REQUESTED NOR GRANTED AFTER THE
    DIVISIONAL PLAYOFF WEEKEND FOR ANY ASSISTANT COACH WHOSE
    TEAM IS STILL PLAYING IN THE POST SEASON.

    Miscellaneous:

    • Permission cannot be granted selectively by an Assistant Coach’s team. If a
    team grants permission to interview one of its coaches to one team, it MUST
    grant permission to all teams requesting it.

    • FOR HEAD COACH CANDIDATES, MANDATORY PERMISSION AFTER SEASON
    ENDS:


    If an Assistant Coach is under contract for the NEXT season, AND his current season
    (including post-season) is over, then:

    o An Assistant Coach MUST be given permission to discuss a Head Coaching
    opportunity if the request comes from the day of their last game, through March
    1st.

    o After March 1st, a club is not required to grant permission for another team to
    interview any of its Assistant Coaches.

    http://www.prostarcoaching.net/library/NFL_Contact_Rules.pdf
     
  9. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Man that's a lot of legal jargon but seems almost like NCAA rules or something dealing with recruiters and recruitees. So I'm supposing that the Denver OC has either already interviewed or will have to do it really early tomorrow to avoid a rules violation. I wonder what the penalty would be for violating them? Like I wonder if they would maybe suspend the coach and fine the FO or something?
     
  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Meh, theres a thread with about 200 replies already dedicated to this :lolol:

    Everything starts in the trenches, Munch improving the line has greatly accounted to the success of the offense. IMO, it would be harder to replace him then Haley, Munch is special. How come Haley's architecture skills couldn't help the last 2 line coaches? Saying Munch is harder to replace then Haley doesn't mean Haley is void of any credit, just means he is the easier of the two to replace.
     
  11. JackAttack 5958

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    You've got to admit that our OL has been healthier this season than they have the last few. I'm sure injuries had a lot to do with the poor performance of the line. Munch is the best OL coach we've had in quite a while, but the overall good health of the line has helped a great deal. But Haley is truly the guy making the offense run on all cylinders IMHO.
     
  12. strummerfan

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    Then Haley must be to blame for all the eggs we laid this year.
    15 points against Atlanta
    20 points against the Titans
    13 points against the Jets
    10 ponts against the Browns
    10 points against the Jaguars
    6 points against the Ravens
     
  13. shaner82

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    Our line really isn't anything special. Ben is getting rid of the ball much quicker than ever, and that's mostly due to having a RB as a weapon out of the backfield. That's a game changer and seriously slows down the pass rush. When I watch the line play, there's still no holes for Bell to run through and they're still being driven backwards towards Ben. Our Oline is still a weak point.

    A line coach is never easier to replace than an OC. I don't care if our line coach is Bill Belichek, he's still just a line coach and hasn't designed an entire offence. We can replace Munch much easier than replacing Haley. It's beyond ridiculous to suggest otherwise and your hatred towards Haley is obvious. No matter what you think of Haley, if he goes, we start all over with a completely new offence. Our offence is ranked quite high as it is, not sure why you think it would be easy to replace that
     
  14. Blast Furnace

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    Sorry, Haley is nothing special, I've watched our line suck for years, now its playing much better. Ben is getting rid of the ball quicker yes, but he gets a pocket more often when he needs a play to develop. And I think it's beyond ridiculous to suggest Bell has done it all on his own, the line has opened plenty of holes for him, no one runs through a brick wall, that's absurd to even think the line hasn't helped Bell.
     
  15. Jim90

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    I would blame Tomlin for that not Haley. It's much easier for a new coach to step in than it would be for an OC. Tomlin is proof of that, he went to the SB twice with Cowher's team. Now that those SB players are done and gone,( minus Ben) the team goes 8-8. Haley came into a mess. Ben wasn't on board, he had no RB's, I think we lost Pouncey his first year here cus of DD diving at his legs. Things were beginning to click last season until Ben got injured. Ben was putting up career #'s last season too, until he got hurt.
     
  16. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    No, that's on Tomlin! :)
     
  17. Jim90

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    Yeah after Bell eats his lunch waiting for the holes to open up, if that was Mendy he would be running into the backs of his own players, Bell has the patience to wait for the holes, they aren't there from the get go.
     
  18. JackAttack 5958

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    This is what concerns me a little about Harris and Tate. Neither of them possess the patience of Bell and the ability to delay and dash. They both seem to hit the hole hard but with the Steelers OL many times it takes the hole a second or two to develop.
     
  19. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'm the biggest Bell fan here but you guys are funny with this stuff :roflmao:
     
  20. Jim90

    Jim90 Well-Known Member

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    true, those guys are North and South runners.

    You'll see tonight Blast what we're talking about. Those holes take time to open up, it's not like our OL is blowing DL's up. The OL looks better cus Ben is getting rid of the ball quicker. The same thing can be said about our pass rush, other teams are getting rid of the ball quicker which is making our pass rush look weak. Flacco gets rid of the ball quick too, we need our secondary to buy time for the rush.
     
  21. strummerfan

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    I think it's been pretty well documented that he's a little off.
     
  22. Jim90

    Jim90 Well-Known Member

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    What's been well documented is that you guys are Haley haters, he could win us 3 SB's and you would still talk trash about the guy.
     
  23. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Just because we acknowledge the only thing the guy has done is finally put together a winning season in a year with a creampuff schedule doesn't make us haters. Now you on the other hand come up with every asinine excuse possible to hate an OC that has actually won something.

    For the record none of us have been making up **** like yourself and the mythical hines ward tweet.
     
  24. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Exactly this. I've given more credit to Haley then Jim will ever give to any of the people he hates.

    He is amusing with the way he tries to twist things though.
     
  25. shaner82

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    Our Oline hasn't played bad, but how can you possibly watch the games and think they have done anything special? More times than not, Bell doesn't have any hoes to run through. Bell is making his own holes a lot of the time, with his patience and that stutter step. There's a reason he's not hitting the hole hard, because there's no hole to hit. He's sitting back waiting for anything resembling a hole to open up.

    You act like Munchak is some great savior of this team. Munchak has a healthy Oline, something we haven't had in a long time. He also has an ever improving Decastro and even both Gilbert and Adams have improved, although both are still not good enough. I like Munchak and I hope he stays right where he is, but to say it would be easier to replace an OC than a line coach is ridiculous. One involved changing almost nothing, the other involves a whole new offence.
     

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