Ben's Wrist Injury

Who cares what the other QB's are doing on their team. This is about Ben on this team, at least they know how to adjust, Ben doesn't he's a stubborn inconsistent turd ball.

 

Great point! Though there is one other stat that makes a difference, he's been sacked 31 times to Mannings 11. That's a whole bunch of drives that Manning turned into TD's that the Steeler's punted on. Even if half of those are on Ben, that still a bunch more that are a result of this terrible offensive line.

 

Brown is #1, Thomas #2, and Bryant is in the making. Lets see how well those receivers do without a Manning or Brady throwing to them. Manning keeps the passing game quick and short. If Ben could grow a brain and stick to that plan too, instead of looking for the bombs, we would have more receivers at the top of the list.

 

Kinda liked the bomb to Martavis Bryant, and he sure didnt play like his wrist was hurting, today.

It probably was...


But he threw pretty well, except for the 3 chances to the endzone, when we were down inside the 15 yardline...
Those were bad...

Other than that...
300+ yards, NO ints, or strip/sacks, and 3 td`s?

How can you complain about that?

Hurt or not, I think he did pretty well.

Yeah, he missed a few opportunities...

Who doesn`t?

Bottom line is 42-21 win, and we play them again at the end of the year...

Keep winning, and we have a chance at trophy #7!!!

I`ve said it time and time again...

If we don`t beat ourselves, we can beat ANY team in this league!

GO STEELERS!!!

 

they tackled AB on the pump fake

 

I've become a believer that with Ben's style of play (extending plays, making things happen when all appears broken) that the ref's aren't going to give us anything that they'd normally give other QB's. That includes PI calls. I don't have the numbers, but I'd be willing to say that he's in the lower 1/3 of the league of getting PI's.

 

they said ben was 100% and last week he had two numb fingers for a few plays. he also said it went away. so blaming all those high throws on the injury was bunk.

they said it was more footwork and arm angle by his own admittance. really? a 10 year vet? it comes down to ben forcing throws and not setting himself. he did that today again. he needs to play within himself and not play so excited. he really needs to work on his mental game even at this stage of his career. I think ben is a very hard guy to coach though.

ben is a gunslinger and I've always said that. he is what he is. ben likes what he's comfortable with and I doubt that is ever going to change at this point.

 

I usually don`t like to complain about the refs.

Missed calls, non-calls, whatever...

My thinking is that those usually even out over the course of the season...

One exception would be the lack of holding calls against Harrison a few seasons ago...

But for the most part..

It`s part of the game...

Ben`s throws were NOT good, when Haley decided to throw for the endzone 3 times in a row, from that close...
Not sure if the "catchable ball" rule still factors into pass interference, nowadays, with all the rule changes,

But I don`t think ANY of those 3 throws were "catchable"...


They were ALL way off target.

Doesn`t matter. We Won... But those were poor throws, whether the reciever had been interfered with, or not... They weren`t even where the rcvr could have caught the ball, if they HADN`T been interfered with..

Just sayin,.

No complaints, because we won, but the playcalling there, was suspect, and the throws by Ben were worse.

I love Ben, best qb we have had in a long time, but I WILL call him out, when he doesn`t play his best, and that series
was FAR from his best.

GO STEELERS!!!

 

you're only taking about the 3 bad throws in the end zone? He was throwing them behind and over receivers heads again. He makes 1 bomb after throwing at least 4 garbage ones and now he's Mr Wonderful again. One of the throws over Bryant's head in the end zone, I'm pretty sure I saw Heath running across the goal line wide open

 

my problem is emptying out the backfield down there. why do we consistently do that? they don't even have to consider defending the run when we do that. grrrrrrr. that drives me crazy.:darkness:

 

The throw to Lance Moore I think was interrupted by the lb or safety. I think if he had put less air under it he thought it might have been picked. Bryant basically got forced out of bounds on that play you are talking about so it really wouldn't have mattered if he had even caught it.

 

I think they do that though because they feel they can hit Bell on a hot read. They actually did that today. Maybe that is what they are thinking most of the time they do that. It irritates me too though. That's why I used to get so mad at BA.

 

it just gives them less to defend though. it also clogs up the EZ. play action would freeze some coverage. this way they don't even have to consider it.

 

That td to Heath was off PA in the red zone today. He was wide open too.

 

He threw a few behind Bell, Bryant, Spaeth and Heath that could've been automatic 1st downs.

 

What in god's name are you talking about? Ben played great today. Yeah, that sequence at the end of the half was a bummer, but I don't put that all on him. The first one was a miscommunication (scramble-style) between he and Brown. Ben was trying to throw him open by putting it wide, and AB didn't get the drift until after the ball was in the air. The second one, to Lance Moore, was too high and out of bounds. That's his bad. The third one, yeah, Heath was open and Ben didn't see him, so that's on him, but you can't really judge the throw when Bryant was pushed out of bounds and never had a chance. The throw was not too high, as you suggest. It was too wide, because Bryant didn't finish his route and ran (or was pushed) out of bounds instead.

That wasn't a good sequence by him, but you're still crazy. "Oh, now he's Mr. Wonderful, just because he..." threw 64% for 350 yards, 3 TDs, 0 turnovers, 0 sacks, a long of 94, and a rating of 119.

Yeah, pretty much.

By the way, those of you who didn't like the decision to throw three passes in that situation are by-the-book wrong. No timeouts, 30 seconds, from the 5... You throw three passes into the end zone and kick a field goal. Anything short of the goal line puts you into a MAJOR hurry where you don't have time to properly call a new play or change personnel or make any adjustments, IF you get the play off. 5 yards is short enough that the routes are easy. It's a no-brainer. For once, we made the right decision by calling timeout right away and throwing three passes. It's a shame it didn't work out, but we took the best route. And as Wonderfully as Ben has played, you have to give him that chance and assume he will see Heath wide open, or make the good throw to Moore. The coaches nailed that call.

 

You're coming around Blast!

 

What I'm talking about were the horrible throws that would've givin us 1st downs, most of them were in the first half. One was to Bell, he was running right when Ben threw it into his ribs, another was to Spaeth on the left side of the field that one went over his head, another one to Heath was at his back,,etc... all of these wide open throws would've kept the drives going and would've kept Green on the bench. I don't expect Ben to be 100% perfect but I do expect a $100 million dollar QB to hit the easy targets on a more consistent basis. It would make things so much easier.

 

Against Indy this year (40-49, 522 yards, 6 TDs, 0 INTs), Ben had 9 incompletions. The following week against Baltimore (25 of 37, 340 yards, 6 TD, 0 INTs), he had 12 incompletions. I could easily describe them all, and make it sound like he had a terrible game. You seem to have no concept of what success is.

Do you marvel that in baseball, even the best players can't crack a 50% batting average? I mean, that's not just an F, it's not even close do a D-! Why hasn't baseball produced any good players??

In conclusion, I also want Ben to throw every ball perfectly. But when he has an awesome game - statistically and otherwise - and pulls out a 42 point win, I'll overlook some errant throws here and there. Because, you know, that's how sports work.

 

The difference with those 2 big games is, those beatings started early in the game.... vs Indy it was already 35-20 at the end of the first half,,,vs Rats 22-10 at the end of the first half., there was nothing to complain about.

Vs Bengals,, 14-10 Bengals at the end of the first half, there were only 3 mins left in the first half before he finally threw one to Miller

 

That makes no sense. Your complaints came after this game ended, meaning you'd seen the whole thing, you knew how great he played, and still complained.

I complained about a high throw early in the Baltimore game, but I did it when it happened. I think he was 0 for 1 at that point, and it was a bad throw. I said, "Dang it, Ben! You gotta make that!" Then he went 25 of 37, for 340 yards, 6 TDs, and 0 INTs, and I said, "Great game, Ben!" You, on the other hand, are sticking with the complaints.

You say, "I don't expect him to be perfect" and then harp on him for a couple missed throws during an outstanding performance and win. We could get bogged down in semantics here, but you can see how that sounds like expecting him to be perfect to me.

I like your dog though.

 

The bomb to Bryant was PA as well. They were on the 6 yard line. I expected them to run Bell. The announcers expected them to run Bell. The Bengals expected them to run Bell.

That didn't change the fact that Bryant ran a great route, and Ben hit him in stride. It was a thing of beauty. Maybe the extra grip Ben had to put on the ball made up for any "issues" with the wrist. But we've all seen Ben miss those deep throws. Bryant barely had to reach up, the ball fell right into his arms.