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Ryan calls Mitchell "bush league"

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blountforcetrauma, Nov 10, 2014.

  1. biggbunch68

    biggbunch68

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    Fumble retrnd for a td
     
  2. Rush2seven

    Rush2seven Well-Known Member

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    I liked it, legal play, worth a try.
     
  3. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Yeah, I'm not a fan of kneel-downs. There needs to be some kind of 'football move' in a play.

    There are equivalents in most sports, and while I appreciate why teams do it, the point of sport is, fundamentally, to entertain...
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I don't mind the kneel downs, it takes away the possibility of an injury, a lot of the times the game is out of reach anyway, and also, if any team is going to suffer a turnover at that point it would be us :lolol:

    Don't want to be a victim of a kneel down, don't put yourself in that position.
     
  5. 58stillers

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    Reminds me of the movie Waterboy......
     
  6. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Mark this down. The NFL is a copycat league and that is absolutely beyond dispute. I will say this. EVENTUALLY SOMEONE is gonna cause a turnover during a victory formation and go on to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and when that happens I will bet you anything that Tomlin and every other coach in the league will start trying it. The very week after Shanahan won a game by calling a TO on a FG and then making them miss the retry everyone ever since has been doing that. I don't even know if it has worked since but people have been doing it and that includes Tomlin. So I will bet you anything that if a move like Mitchell pulled ever succeeds it will become common place for people to try and break up the kneel down.
     
  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Won't happen. For starters, Shanahan's ploy worked, so there was reason to try it again. Mitchel just made himself and the Steelers look like an ass and the recipients of being ripped all week in the media. Probably won't even see another attempt for a long time and even longer before ever seeing a successful attempt. You're not going to cause a TO there, not gonna happen.
     
  8. contract

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    Of course it will happen. It has happened without a body flying in ... why would it be less likely with a defender leaping over the OL???
     
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    Worse than that ... Tomlin OK'ed it ... then through Mitchell under the bus. I'd be OK if Mitchell punched him in the face. I'd be OK if Ben did it too, since Tomlin seemed more concerned with trashing our guy for a legal play than he was about Babin trying to injure our franchise QB.
     
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    Because there are too many Tomlin's running around worried about being criticized for a legal play.

    I find it amusing that a legal play is now a "punk move". A punk move is *****ing out of playing the last minute of the game because you're scared of words.
     
  11. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Ryan's a buffoon but he was right. No need for it. And those who say that Ryan isn't classless let's not forget his sucking the toes of his wife on U Tube. Unless your into that sort, then I guess he had some class :eek: Plus his one finger salute to Miami Dolphin's fans at a mixed martial event. Some complain about Tomlin. Ryan is a joke of a head coach.
     
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    No he wasn't right, and after checking the boxscore it turns out that there really was a need for it ... since the opposing team had the ball with under 2 minutes left and we were down a score. :rolleyes:

    In fact, if you could paint a picture of the need to have a defender leap over the OL kamikaze style trying to force a fumble, it would look exactly like that situation.
     
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    btw this "unprofessional" crap is coming from a head coach that dialed up a play action pass on 4th and 2 with under 2 minutes left vs the Ravens when we were already ahead 36-23 ... because apparently unnecessary injuries can only occur when Mike Mitchell leaps over the opposing OL.
     
  14. biggbunch68

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    :this!:
     
  15. biggbunch68

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    To me what Mitchell did is not any worse, Than when a QB hurrys to the line and acts like he is gona spike the ball. then throws a TD instead.. ITS THE SAME THING IN MY EYES. there trying to when the game!!!!
     
  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    When? I have never seen a fumble when taking a knee?

    It is a punk move, how many people you see doing it? Who cares if its legal, hey, lets keep jumping over the top, trying to guess the snap count, penalty after penalty after penalty, keep on trying to get that next to impossible fumble!
     
  17. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    It's a Greg Schiano move. Greg Schiano.

    [video=youtube;3EOTRiZZ9qY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EOTRiZZ9qY[/video]

    Has anyone done it since?
     
  18. contract

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    [video=youtube;jQz4BFbgARI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQz4BFbgARI[/video]

    That's the great Brandon Weeden btw.


    Why do you think the formation exists??? There's a guy to either side of the QB and one behind for that specific eventuality.
     
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    Down a TD with less than 2 minutes ... penalties are literally the last thing I'm worried about. You don't ever tap out while there's still a chance to win.
     
  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Do you have one at the pro level? And also note, they recovered without jumping over the top.
     
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    No I don't. But I doubt Weeden has gotten any more sure handed since he started stealing NFL game checks.

    The QB/C exchange is botched regularly. There's nothing magical about the last minute of a game that makes it less likely. Applying pressure can only make it more likely.
     
  22. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    My point was, that it has never happened in the NFL, it's so rare that the only proof of it is in college. When you have these unwritten rules that get broken, it's the definition of bush league.

    By your argument, with a fresh set of downs, guys should just keep jumping over the pile until the clock runs out? When does it become ridiculous?
     
  23. ThrowToHeath

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    Will Allen should start at FS when Troy returns after the Bye. We need someone smart playing FS, which is why Ryan Clark worked out so well for us. It allows Troy to be a play maker.
     
  24. 86WardsWay

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    I guess I was the only one thinking he should have did it again on the next kneel down.

    Call it bush league all you want but it was a legal play and there was still time on the clock.

    If teams are only supposed to play nice then a fake spike then pass for a TD should be considered bush league also instead of giving it genius status.
     
  25. FeartheBeard

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    Wow, I cant believe this is still being discussed. What's the problem here? We are only down by a touchdown with time left on the clock. Should we just give up? I really don't even like Mitchell, but I have no problem with him trying something, anything, to maybe give us a chance. And, I have been listening to Mike and Mike, Colin, and SVP all week and I have not heard ONE person bring this up so I am not sure who in the media is blasting us - not that that really matters anyway.
     

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