Al Woods To Visit The Titans

Wow this feels like a big loss. I hope the team has a back up plan and wasn't caught off guard by this.

 

Like cajun said...i wish we could know the plan...and thought process and so on. Did they plan on letting play A and B go...or did they say hey go get some offers and come back to us and they don't who knows...I don't hahah.

If Woods is gone...its unfortunately...he could have potentially been a starter here. Oh well...I wish him well.

 

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They should re-sign Hood he won't cost that much. I would take him over Kiesel because Hood is a lot younger and hasn't been injured.

 

I'm with the others. I wanted Woods, but not for that money. Sign Ziggy.

 

Isn't that more or less what we gave Steve McLendon who had similar experience and success?

 

Keisel on a 1 year deal. Hood doesn't fit our defense and will surely cost more than Keisel.

 

I believe McLendon had more experience (certainly with us), more success, and they were quite open about how much they liked him.

 

http://www.nfl.com/player/alwoods/496881/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/stevemclendon/2507590/profile

 

Yep. Those are the guys.

I believe McLendon had more experience (certainly with us), more success, and they were quite open about how much they liked him.

 

I see no significant experience or production difference between them. Most of McLendon's playing time and production came this past season.

 

You don't see it because you're looking at two NFL.com pages of statistics.

At the time he was signed to his current contract, McLendon had been here 3 years, rotating regularly for 2 and starting one game (and playing well). John Mitchell made his, "Hold your opinion on Steve McLendon until the season is over" announcement before the 2012 season. They liked him, and were grooming him to be the next starter. He is the starter now. Woods' best stuff has come in the preseason, although he did look good this year (I'd argue not as good as McLendon). Even if Al was as good and well-liked by the coaching staff as Steve was, if we signed him, he would be Steve's backup. Why would we pay the backup the same money as the starter? How many snaps per game does the backup nose tackle get? 6?

...Unless he's going to be your starting DE, but that's a whole new conversation, and you can throw Woods' experience and production out the window because I'm pretty sure almost everything he's done for us has been at NT.

 

Wow just read in the post woods kinda screwed the steelers. They had asked him to let them know if he was going to to shop himself because they wanted to sign him before he even got a chance to interview with another team. By the time they found out he was in Nashville it was too late. I kinda hope he falls on his face now.

 

Link?

 

Oops http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...uilding-on-a-fault-line/stories/201403230121#

 

Something tells me we got screwed by an agent.

I remember reading an article with a former steelers offensive lineman. He was talking about how his agent never told him how the negotiating practice worked and had the player listen in on a negotiation between the fo and the agent. The fo was talking about the mistakes the player made etc. Once the phone call ended the agent was like see they don't really appreciate you, you should sign with this team instead. The player got pissed and signed with the jags and regretted it.

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It was Leon Searcy, here are the relevant parts.

pC: Why did you end up going to the Jaguars?

LS: This is a funny story. I’m a free agent just out of the Super Bowl. My agent is Drew Rosenhaus, enough said there. I’m a little cocky and I’m in the Bahamas. I’m resting. Drew Rosenhaus calls me and says ‘Leon we have a deal on the table.’ I say from the Steelers? And he says ‘no from Jaguars.’ And I said the Jaguars? Come on now.

This is why I left Pittsburgh. Drew Rosenhaus got the Steelers on the phone. Drew told me at the time that the money we were asking from Pittsburgh didn’t think I deserved it. You’ve got to remember at the time, I am 24, 25, a pro bowler and teams are telling me that I don’t deserve [the money]. He said ‘Pittsburgh doesn’t think you deserve the kind money you are asking for.’ They said you’re too young. I said I don’t believe you, you’re lying. So Drew got them on the phone, and I am on the phone listening. Drew is ranting and raving and saying Leon is going to leave and they’re saying we don’t care we have someone to replace him. So that was probably the worst thing that could have happened to me.

pC: They didn’t know you were on the phone?

LS: No. They didn’t. They didn’t know I was on the phone and Drew negotiated with them. You don’t want to hear negotiations. For one, I’m 25 years old, you don’t understand the business. His job is to get as much money as he can and their job is to keep as much and we’re supposed to meet somewhere in the middle. But Drew did not explain that to me. He just explained that they don’t want you for the money you’re asking for. So, I’m on the phone and I’m hearing them say Leon is only a starter for us for 3 years and we can’t give him that kind of money because Dermontti Dawson is this and he will be a future Hall of Famer. We love the kid but we can’t pay him to be the highest offensive lineman.
So I am listening to this. I am fuming mad. I said the hell with Pittsburgh. I’ll go somewhere else and prove myself. As soon as we hung up the phone, Drew had the Jaguars right there. He had already staged the whole thing because the Jaguars wanted to make me the highest paid offensive linemen in the NFL at that time. So, Drew said don’t worry about them, I’ve got a team that wants to make you the highest paid offensive lineman in the NFL and I said who’s that? He said the Jacksonville Jaguars. I said, let’s go. I was fuming mad from that point on but I didn’t understand the nature of the business. That’s how the business is. I would advise any guy who is a free agent, that is young to not listen to the negotiations between your agent and the team. They want to strip you down and he’s going to build you up and they’ve got to meet somewhere in the middle. You couldn’t tell me that, not at the time. The way they were stripping me down. He can’t do this, he can’t do that, he’s got limitations. It was so tempting to just say something on the phone. I was holding it in.
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Searcy?

You can't be Searcy?

 

We have no right to expect him to give us a heads up on his job search. That's ridiculous. If we wanted to keep him, we should have made him an offer he would accept.

 

The front office has worked that way for years!
A player becomes a free agent.
The team gives their blessing to solicit offers.
The majority of them give the team a heads-up on the high bidder/most inviting situation.
It helps the FO see what the outside market is for the player. They get a last chance to counteroffer; most players don't want to leave if the front office can come to a compromise.
Of course, the FO should have overpaid him based on message-board ramblings.
If we had this board from late-Noll to mid-Cowher, the internet would have melted.

 

The team is in no position to give a free agent their blessing to do anything. He is free. The team has no hold or claim on him.

As far as what the Steelers would like the player and his agent to do, why should they care? The Steelers want a heads up, and the team that is handing him a multimillion dollar offer wants the deal done before you talk to anyone else. Who is he going to listen to? He's got a multimillion dollar offer in his hand that may disappear, and no guarantee the the Steelers would be willing to pony up that kind of offer. He's supposed to risk his future to make his old team happy?

 

Just guessing, but I think teams usually care more about dollars and cents than, "WHAT? You've been talking to another team?? There is no place for that here!"

I don't know what happened with Woods so I don't want to comment on it, but I'm not sure how many, "this offer is good for 30 seconds and if you contact another team to see what their offer is then we'll take it away" deals there are out there...

 

its a respect thing from what I remember he had no suitors when we signed him so if not for us he would probably be out of football.

 

Sounds like he listened to his agent.
I agree with Hurtin and BF. There usually is a negotiation; if you are cool with your present/former team, you give them a phone call to see if they match or top it. If he feels he is ready to be the man, I would leave the jury out for this coming season...
If the Titans want him bad enough, they would have been patient enough to wait a day.
Just an agent making his money....

 

Why would his agent care who he signs with?

And as far as the Titans waiting, that conjecture.