Silverback Wants To Return To Pittsburgh

True that!

And that's DOUBLE what our highly esteemed first round draft pick had last season.

But I still wouldn't re-sign him.

 

Jones can and we kept a rookie in Robinson who didn't either.

 

Exactly. Harrison was washed up when he was here last. He hasn't gotten any younger since he left. We aren't going to win the SB this year with or without him, we simply have too many holes, so I don't understand bringing in an old, washed up guy like Harrison. It's not exactly like he's a leader, everything I've read and seen, he's very quiet and says almost nothing. He's not the same player he once was. Our franchise used to know how to get rid of guys before they were washed up, now we're talking about bringing back a guy that was washed up 2 years ago?

No thanks

 

Perhaps, although i wasn't thrilled about the Jarvis pick and said as much. Still, Jarvis is far from a bust. He was a rookie last year in a system that's not overly friendly towards rookies. While he still should have played better than he did even as a rookie, it's not like all hope is lost for him. Whether or not Jarvis pans out is irrelevant when it comes to bringing Harrison back. If Jarvis isn't the guy, then lets find out the hard way and then we draft someone next year (we may want to draft someone this year anyway). No sense in a guy like Harrison being on the team, he can't offer us anything either short term or long term. If we can't win with Jarvis Jones, we're not going to win with Harrison.

As for a role model or mentor, sorry, but that's just not Harrison.

 

Wow I guess you haven't heard everything the Bengals players have said about him as a leader and mentor He changed how a lot of those guys approached the game when it came to their body. Hell Burfict and a couple of the others are even getting acupuncture now.

 

How do you figure? The way he plays on the field he's the perfect role model. I don't remember him ever being a bad teammate. In fact he set a great tone for the team. His comments in the media, maybe? I don't think that has much impact on his ability to mentor. Did he say something to lead you to this conclusion?

Agree 100%! And Jarvis finished the year quite strong.

No one's saying bench/stunt Jones. Let the kid play. In the short term Harrison offers us depth. Jones and Worilds both have injury histories. Even at age 36 in 2014, I bet James would be an above average run defender and decent situational pass rusher. I'd say that's worst-case scenario. Without him, it's Chris Carter (nothing) and a whole lot of empty slots.

As far as him taking up a spot from younger backups... he wouldn't be taking the spot of the TOP young backup (should we draft one). He'd be booting some other schmuck off the bottom of the depth chart. Some guy that would have been a bubble player anyway. That's hardly a sacrifice when you consider the benefit of having a known commodity at #3 OLB, which is a position that could be used rotationally to keep legs fresh, as well as goal line scenarios (Harrison is a beast there), and can be critical in case of injury, which, let's face it, is likely.

If we were going to draft someone high at the position or sign another known FA, that'd be one thing. But to go into the draft without a plan at the position seems irresponsible to me. You don't want to handcuff yourself into having to draft an OLB in the 3rd or 4th because you have zero depth, costing you a good player elsewhere. You want it to be an option. Having Harrison gives the team more options, at least for a year.

 

If his agent had been a dumb arse, he would still be here. Turn down $4.3 to make $1.5 was a life lesson. The guy is Steeler, he deserves to be here, and he would be an asset. I would love for JJ to learn from him AND Porter. HOLY SNOT BATMAN!!!

Didnt he get 'injured' both times the Bungals played us? Or did he?

 

Here's what Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review had to say, he doesn't get the Harrison thing at all because he can't play on special teams as a backup. Dejan also doesn't think Harrison is very good at football anymore, to which I totally agree with. Also that keeping a spare LB on the sideline who does nothing else that's not a luxury most NFL teams can afford. Finally a guy who gets it and makes sense on all points.

 

So you are saying you would rather believe a Pittsburgh beat writer who is trying to sell papers over actual football players because he shares the same POV as you and has a forum from which to spread his beliefs? Heck i can dig up a couple of guys off bleacherreport that think he still can go.

 

I just want a mean LB back on the team.

 

Mac i think you would agree Joey would keep Debo mean & clean if he returned..and think he would play his best just to silence all doubters in football land.

 

I'm not trying to downplay the importance of special teams but that should not be a sticking point when you only have two capable players at OLB. You know probably the most important position in our 3-4. Both our penciled in starters also have plenty of ?????? that need to be answered as well. Not to mention don't we already have like 5 or 6 ST " specialists" on our roster. With the virtual elimination if KO returns there's half the opportunities there used to be. Like I said in our situation the fact that James can't play ST is irrelevant. The fact that he fills a huge void at a position of utmost importance isn't.....I don't know where this notion that he can't play anymore keeps coming from as BF pointed out before ,he graded out pretty well with the odds totally stacked against him last year so...........all that article was is some guys opinion. There have been plenty written both pro and con.

 

If we'd re-signed Harrison last year, we'd probably be ready to cut him this year but since he was signed AND cut by the Bengals he's now a must have for some. I love Harrison and do think he's a leader on the field, but it's just time to move on.

 

Let em come back

 

I don't know what wanting him back has to do with being signed and cut by the Bengals. I'm pretty sure those of us that consider him a must have are also aware that there is no depth at all behind him. Unless you consider Carter a viable option. Oh wait we're gonna keep Carter because he can play STs and Harrison can't. I could almost guarantee this will be Carter's last year here anyway. He has shown nothing....so who would you rather have for one more year? I always want to win as many games as possible every year if it means playoffs,then let the chips fall where they may. Harrison has a much greater chance of impacting games then Carter ever will. It's purely a depth signing with a guy who knows and has flourished in this system. As previous posters have noted we don't have anyone that is proven on the right side. If any of the naysayers could give any realistic options for the position,I'm all ears.

 

we were saying the same thing about worilds, that we are saying about carter up until the last half of the season. maybe this is his breakout year too. he missed his rookie year with the lockout basically so this is his 3rd full season. we could do a lot worse so I'm going to wait and see with him. I think he's close and was getting slightly better every year. he may surprise us some this year. it would be nice to have some guys here to teach the youth. we have kept 5 OLB'ers before.

I'm also not sure that Harrison wouldn't play some ST's if they ask him. ike does. troy does.

 

If anyone is hanging on to a shred of hope about Carter and are bored,just google breakdown of Chris Carter vs Browns or Chiefs. That should remove all doubt. Like I said before it took a miracle in the last preseason game for him to save his job,even though he was clearly outplayed by a few of the younger guys especially Alan Baxter.

 

Bingo. Worilds has always looked good to me. The last time I was excited about Carter was the day we drafted him. He's never looked like he belongs anywhere except special teams, and even there he's nothing special.

And I agree about Harrison too. As long as Jones is getting the start and we're paying Harrison a small amount of money, and he wants to be here... I don't see any downside, regardless of where he was last year.

 

worilds had better upside at the time but nobody thought that he was a have to have guy like he became last year. especially as the next starter.