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Steelers Restructure Antonio Brown's Contract

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TerribleTowelFlying, Mar 7, 2014.

  1. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    According to Adam Schefter, the Steelers have restructured AB's contract. $4 Mil in cap space cleared from the restructure.
     
  2. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yep, we fully expected this. Now it's time to visit the Bank of Timmons for a few million more. All part of the standard offseason ritual.
     
  3. Busman

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    Bank of Ritual sounds good too :)

    Bman
     
  4. Fe3CCity

    Fe3CCity Well-Known Member

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    Even with this move and a similar one with Timmons and Ike, cut or paycut, we still, before the large cap increase, could have cleared up around 10-15 mil in space this year no?

    With the increase that would have given around 20mil or so. After worrilds that keeps us around the 12 mil number. Could we see a large signing in FA.
    I know we don't make big splashes but couldn't we see 1 large, in the scale of the steelers ( 5 mil cap hit year one), signing?

    Rookie contracts should be around 5.5 mil right? That should leave us with 7mil; more if worrilds gets long deal.
     
  5. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    The early projections for the cap are 145 next year and 160 the year after. I'm beginning to see why the steelers aren't redoing Bens deal this year.
     
  6. SGSteeler

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    We still have to sign guys like Cotchery, Woods, Velasco, etc. even if they are smaller contracts they still add up. We could have the room to get a bigger name guy if we wanted though I think. This is actually part of the reason why I've been calling for Woodley's release pre-June 1. In 2015 it would give us enough money to sign someone to a big time deal. We could get a game changer. However, I've beaten that dead horse enough... realistically we could have the cap to sign a bigger name guy, but I think the Steelers will probably sign our guys first then maybe find a guy or two that are lower level but starter capable players to plug in. I'm thinking of guys like Cody, Soliai(sp?) etc.
     
  7. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    The moves they made earlier in the week cleared north of 12 and a half. If they max restructured AB and Timmons, it would clear over $7.8 Mil in cap space. Ike depends on the size of the pay cut, or if they just cut of course.

    Depending on the comp picks, that $5.5 Mil should be a good ball park for the draft pool, but the cap impact should only be in the neighborhood of $3.5 Mil due to displacement.

    Not accounting for Ike, we're looking at around $3.5 Mil under ballpark right now, but that's also not accounting for Will Allen's re-signing or some workout bonuses that are going to be hitting real soon. I don't see the plausibility of having room for a 5 Mil cap hit FA signing personally.
     
  8. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I haven't seen those projections. I've only seen 140 Mil for '15, and 150 for '16, but those are only rumors. I can't see any way that the Steelers FO is using those numbers to shape their contract workings right now.
     
  9. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I've just never seen how or why they could/would do that personally. It just doesn't work financially.
     
  10. Fe3CCity

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    I wasn't thinking jimmy graham stuff but even a delmas on the correct dollar not how he'll get over payed.
    5 for rookies 6 for the vets. Work worrilds ike and Timmons that's got to be about 6 or so in space for this year.

    On a side note I don't think worrilds will get done till after draft. They want him to see his market value. Which won't be as high as he and his agent think. I expect offers and the steelers can match it and get it cheaper.

    That being said working Timmons and Ike would stil be 4-5mil.
     
  11. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Once Worilds "signed" his tag, it took that option away. That was the Steelers intention, but now that he's officially tagged, he's off the market with a one year guarantee (until they agree on a long term deal).

    Timmons alone could clear almost $4 Mil if they roll the max allowable portion of his base salary into a signing bonus. Personally, I'd be a little surprised if they did. At least, not at first.
     
  12. Fe3CCity

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    Agreed there is zero reason to get rid of Woodley. The only thing I see is a big hit now and space later.

    Ttf Ike is a hit of what like 7-8 mil right now. You don't think they can drop that by 3 mil. Clearing 3 and 2 on Timmons could eat the rookies numbers. Leaving, at minimum, what's left from AB restructure which is about 4 mil.
    Leave that for the vets, and a new worrilds signing creates more, let's not add in Bens cap it if redone.

    I guess my issue is it COULD be done and if the FO wanted.

    Even now when I go over what we have even with a worrilds long term contract we have the playing money for the middle of the season for injuries.
    Maybe you're righ TTF but I didn't say that here maybe I should send in a PM.
     
  13. Fe3CCity

    Fe3CCity Well-Known Member

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    Corrected. I thought it still left offers to be matched.
     
  14. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Is restructuring all the time the way
    the Steelers do business now? When will it stop? Or does it ever stop?
     
  15. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    if they do find extra money, I'd have to think tez allen, heyward and possibly pouncey would be the first orders of business. I believe we would also then be without spaeth and foster and carter and garvin and lets not forget having to eventually do something with beachum and make a decision on gilbert after this year. we also may have kicker and punter signings to do. so there are decisions to be made on a lot of guys moving forward. I'm not sure there is any way we can keep ike unless it's a pretty large pay cut and then some.:cool:
     
  16. mac daddyo

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    oh and lets not forget we only have 2 RB's signed this year bell and will Johnson so far.:cool:
     
  17. TerribleTowelFlying

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    It could be done, Fe, though they would need to make more moves. I don't know who they'd be interested in that would garner a $5 Mil first year cap hit, though. To me, a large FA signing for the Steelers would be something like $2-3 Mil for a first year cap hit.

    I'd like to see them be able to avoid restructuring Timmons, but if they need to borrow a little from LT Bank, so be it.

    As to Ike, his 2014 cap hit is almost $12 Mil.
     
  19. TheSteelHurtin2188

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  20. Busman

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    Thats good I guess. Honestly I do not understand caps and all that stuff.

    I am happy sometimes being ignorant lol

    Not ever understanding caps and space and contracts does this mean we can go out and sign someone as of Mar 11th from FA?

    Bman
     
  21. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    Not yet that pretty much cleared up enough for the rookies. Ike's contract will clear up enough for them to sign someone.
     
  22. steel1031

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    I think its better than the alternative. dump a bunch of people and spend two or three years rebuilding. people were ticked losing 8 games. they would explode if we lost 12 or 13
     
  23. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Brown has enough years left that it doesn't hurt too bad right now.
     
  24. Busman

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    Sounds encouragaging TSH and thank you

    I guess there is a minimum contract with the CBA for the rooks coming in?

    Does that make sense.. You are only allowed to spend so much money?

    How did we get into trouble with the cap... Is it because we have some of the vets on long term contacts that are expenisve?

    Bman
     
  25. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    They won't need to worry about rookie signings for a few months. They're sitting around $2.5 Mil under the cap right now, so they're going to need to make more room to be able to play in free agency. Ike and Timmons will provide cap space, and working out a long term deal with Worilds/extending Ben will clear room for '14 as well.
     

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