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Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by TarheelFlyer, Jan 10, 2014.

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  1. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    What are those players who are too good to pass over if they drop to #15? I did one earlier about who the #1 picks are, but who can you just not pass over if they drop. Please identify position, on the Steelers, and player.
     
    TarheelFlyer, Jan 10, 2014
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  2. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    OT Jake Matthews
    DE Jadeveon Clowney
    LB Anthonny Barr
    WR Sammy Watkins

    MAYBE OT Greg Robinson, but I'm not 100% on that right yet.
     
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  3. freakfontana

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    maybe add dennard
     
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  4. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'm not there with him. Is he the best CB of the bunch? Maybe, but I wouldn't say its set in stone. Personally, I like Purifoy. I don't think any CB is worth a Top 15 pick at this point.
     
    SteelCity_NB, Jan 11, 2014
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  5. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think Mike Evans needs to be on the list.
     
    Steel_Elvis, Jan 11, 2014
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  6. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    what about Louis nix? I personally don't know a lot about him
     
    steel1031, Jan 11, 2014
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  7. USCGSteeler

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    Would someone please tell me what all the fuss about Barr is about? I watched UCLA three times this year and never saw him do anything; he did not even look like the best linebacker on his own team, he sure does not pursue from the back side if the play goes away from him.
     
    USCGSteeler, Jan 11, 2014
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  8. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    Best pure pass rusher in the draft, unquestioned, IMO. He has the H-W-S everyone looks for. Might be able to play 4-3 DE, but is best as a 3-4 OLB. 23+ sacks in the past 2 years. At 6'4 250, he is probably going to run 4.5 or less. He may have a hot and cold motor but when he's hot, there's not much to dislike.
     
    SteelCity_NB, Jan 11, 2014
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  9. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    I hate to say it...but when I hear UCLA OLB with a bunch of sacks, all I can think is Bruce Davis who had 24.5 his JR and SR years combined. His is no longer in the NFL after being taken in 3rd round.
     
    TarheelFlyer, Jan 11, 2014
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  10. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    I get the comparison but its not really fair.

    Davis ran 4.78

    I can't see how Barr gets out of the Top 10.
     
    SteelCity_NB, Jan 11, 2014
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  11. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    best pass rusher is clowney. bar none. when he is one on one he is unblockable
     
    steel1031, Jan 11, 2014
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  12. numbah58

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    True that..
     
    numbah58, Jan 11, 2014
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  13. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    As a pure pass rusher, I'm actually taking Barr over Clowney. Now, there's no question that Clowney is a better overall football player and defensive prospect, however, when it comes to a pass rush, I think it will be Barr who causes more disruption.
     
    SteelCity_NB, Jan 12, 2014
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  14. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    For the steelers it's Ebron.
     
    TheSteelHurtin2188, Jan 12, 2014
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  15. numbah58

    numbah58 Staff Member Mod Team

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    Ebron will definitely be a matchup problem for most defenses.
    I'd like to see him in the B&G..
     
    numbah58, Jan 12, 2014
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  16. SGSteeler

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    OT Mathews, LB Barr, DE Clowney, WR Watkins, CB Dennard.

    The only one that has a chance being there is Dennard, and the only one worth trading up for is Watkins though. I wouldn't want to trade an entire draft to get Watkins, but maybe Pouncey has some trade value to swap 1sts and 3rds (or something like that) with someone in order to get him.
     
    SGSteeler, Jan 12, 2014
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  17. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly what I was thinking.
     
    JackAttack 5958, Jan 12, 2014
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  18. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Clowney is a 4/3 DE he doesn't fit the Steelers defense. I don't know why Steeler fans want him anyways.
     
    steelersrule6, Jan 12, 2014
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  19. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    He is a little overrated IMO, however, physically, should be able to handle himself quite well in the NFL. If it wasn't for that hit against Michigan last year, I don't think the ESPN hype machine would have been as loud this season. No chance he gets out of the Top 6 or 7 though.
     
    SteelCity_NB, Jan 13, 2014
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  20. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    watch him play. forget all the pub. he is unblockable when you don't double him. I know its college and not the nfl but when he is motivated like he was early at south car. he is hard to even slow down. I know for a fact that Richardson the left tackle from Tennessee couldn't handle him one on one. everyone is talking about defenses not having a chance anymore. so why not draft guys who can play and find a spot for them. don't worry about if they fit here or there. you find a place for a clowney if you get a chance. wont get that chance but you have to get players. he is one of the best
     
    steel1031, Jan 13, 2014
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  21. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    Do we know what Barr runs?
     
    TarheelFlyer, Jan 13, 2014
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  22. GB_Steel

    GB_Steel Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, those five, no one else. Maybe add Khalil Mack there. Don't think any of the DB's are too good to pass on.
     
    GB_Steel, Jan 13, 2014
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  23. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    He was timed on campus in the spring at 4.47. We'll see what he runs at the Combine, but if it is around there, at 6'4, 250lbs, that is mighty impressive.
     
    SteelCity_NB, Jan 13, 2014
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  24. Kevin James

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    Mike Evans is one of my early favorites.
     
    Kevin James, Jan 13, 2014
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  25. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Who cares about Clowney he won't be around at #15 anyway.
     
    steelersrule6, Jan 14, 2014
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