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GAME MGMT SPECIALIST NEEDED.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Wardismvp, Dec 24, 2013.

  1. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I would hope if the Steelers don't do
    anything else this off season, that they
    at least hire someone who is on top of
    game mgmt situations.

    OBVIOUSLY MT, BR and TH have no CLUE
    what they are doing in critical situations.

    Lets see we probably have about 22 mill/yr tied up in these
    guys and they still can't get it figured out.
     
  2. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    I can see the justification for going for 7 (presume that's the spark for the thread, though there's obviously a whole history of time management/situational play-calling issues).

    What kills me is when they take a timeout to decide whether to go for it on 4th and 1. I'm not saying don't weigh up the options; just do it a bit quicker!
     
  3. SteelerGlenn

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    I still don't understand why they didn't take a knee on second down? If we're able to still score a TD on third down we still could have run the clock down to a hand ful of seconds? And if we don't score a TD you can then kick a field goal.
     
  4. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    I really think this is a hindsight situation. Had we dropped 2 knees and had our FG blocked, people would be cursing that we didn't go for the TD.

    You take the points when you can get them.
     
  5. pjgruden

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    Tomlin has Bell on his fantasy team :thumbs_up:
     
  6. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    :roflmao:
     
  7. GB_Steel

    GB_Steel Well-Known Member

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    :this!: Nothing is for certain in this gameso if you have a chance to get 7 points instead of 3, you do it.
     
  8. bigsteelerfaninky

    bigsteelerfaninky Well-Known Member

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    Yeah i have no problem going fir 7 there
    actually i like it
    You play to win The game not to not lose it
     
  9. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Overall though Ward has a point in saying our clock mgmt is horrible. I'm talking just in general. Could it also be that Tomlin is a little indecisive at times and then needs the timeout to decide?
     
  10. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    My own sense is that he trusts his coordinators to do their jobs. So perhaps when it comes to a big decision, there's his view, Haley's view, Danny Smith's view, Ben's view all to take into consideration? Who knows.
     
  11. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    You know a lot of times when you watch NFL Films and you'll see the HC on the sidelines saying through the headset to his coordinators "do we go for it here?!" or emphatically stating that he needs someone to tell him something. Maybe it would be a good idea for coordinator's and coaches to basically huddle up when the game is on the line and be literally right there next to each other to maximize communication. Also I think Danny Smith doesn't get a headset because with all the gum in his mouth it wouldn't really make a difference anyway. LOL.
     
  12. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    This. You do not leave points on the field. You take as many points as the defence is willing to give you.
     
  13. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    Obviously he doesn't. Last week Haley had a call ready to go on 4th down but Tomlin called a timeout anyway. Haley was visibly annoyed.
     
  14. steelers5859

    steelers5859 Well-Known Member

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    My issue is play calling. Or the time it takes to run a play. Coming out of a time out it took 25 seconds to run the play.

    Also what is surprising is they are in a very similar situation in another game and still can't get it right in another. Now we all dismiss these things because luckily it has worked out but it will cost us a game one day so why not get it right when it doesn't affect us?
     
  15. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I agree with the OP for the most part. Clock Management and Time out usage always seem to be an issue. MT is not very good at it and that has been obvious for quite some years now. Ben has many brain farting moments as well. Haley is too soon to make a judgment on for me anyways but seems to be heading down the same avenue.

    All 3 of them make Cowher look very good and I know he was just slightly above average.

    Now to the incomplete pass at the end of the game that stopped the clock. This was just the latest idiotic display of clock management. Run the ball. Eat the Clock! Don't know who's call it was there, whether it was TH, BR or MT but it nearly cost us the game again. To me that falls on the Head Coach. It is MT's job to completely understand the situation.

    This is why I hated BA. His situational play calling was atrocious at times.

    Maybe they get way too caught up in the moment and it's easy for us to see on the TV but these guys are paid large sums of money to manage the game at best as possible and sometimes it looks like they're completely clueless at times.
     
  16. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    BA's situational play calling was bad "at times"??? At what time did he ever DO situational play calling??? LOL.
     
  17. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Haley should have a play ready in that situation, though. What I meant more was that, on the first three downs, it's Haley's call. When its 4th and short, Tomlin seems to want other perspectives. I'm guessing from what I know of Haley, he'd pretty much always want to go for it.
     
  18. 86WardsWay

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    I still lose sleep over a 3rd and 2 call one time where we chucked it incomplete 45 yards down field into double coverage when we had been running all over the opponent throughout the entire game.
     
  19. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    ESPN had a special on a no name collegiate school where the coach didn't even have a punter on the roster and they went for it on 4th down 100% of the time and the guy had a remarkable winning %. He gave the ball over on downs a few times a game but overall converted many more to get the extra set of downs and out score the opponent.
     
  20. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    I also vividly remember a qb draw in the Jags playoff game where Ben was in the shotgun on like a 4th and 7 or something. That exact game was the moment where I realized that BA was my arch nemesis.
     
  21. lersgofor7

    lersgofor7 Well-Known Member

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    if your talking about the end of the game then no... i agree with tomlins decision....u get the easy safe points...they had 0 timeouts left...they need to make a special teams play period...too much stuff can happen if you get fancy and screw around taking a knee, fg could be blocked, fumble on next play, etc...we blocked a fg from the 5 in that game...chances are it doesnt happen again but on a snowy field ill take the safe points...

    if your talking about going into the half with 1 TO in your pocket then yes...that was the wrong call...they needed to take a timeout instead of letting 20 seconds run off
     
  22. lersgofor7

    lersgofor7 Well-Known Member

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    :this!:

    :this!:
     
  23. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Here's a question that I'm not sure if GB answered but did they actually LET us score?
     
  24. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I guarantee that happens in games more than we know and I also guarantee you will never know the answer.
     
  25. freakfontana

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    yes ,they were out of timeouts and if flynn go to nelson it would have worked
     

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