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Do you think Jason Worilds gets resigned?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Da Stellars, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    This will probably be one of the biggest questions of the offseason since it will we are tight with the cap and it will also effect the Steelers Draft.

    He is still kind of an unknown since this has really been the biggest opportunity to show what he can do, but some 3-4 team would most certainly be willing to give him some decent money.

    Can the Steelers match it, and will they?
     
  2. Steel_in_DC

    Steel_in_DC Well-Known Member

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    Really really doubt Worilds stays. Just way too much of a cap hit they will take with Woodley to sign Jason. It would almost mean the Steelers are going all out to pay Worilds to sustain just one position while neglecting other needs such as CB, ILB, possibly Safety, and DL that cannot be ignored either. Things the Steelers are probably considering with respect to keeping Worilds:

    1. They could probably offer 4-5 million, but considering quite a few teams using the 3-4 he is bound to get more dough somewhere else from a team that has cap space to give
    2. The guy has been playing hot, really really hot - but remember it is only a 4 game stretch ... do you roll the dice on a guy who doesn't necessarily have a long built up history?

    Woodley's contract and restructuring is once again is just another sign of pizz poor management by the front office...someone (like Colbert) a long time ago should have recognized that Woodley was never a complete LB and not someone you bust the bank for. Also here we are again ala Keenan Lewis last year finally figuring out how valuable a guy might be in the 4th year of their contract because the front office has been so hell bent on keeping core veterans.
     
  3. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    If we don't re-sign him, that would be two consecutive off-seasons that we've allowed a star in the making to get away. Somebody's head would need to roll over that!

    Here's the real question. We could free up I believe over $8 million in cap space by cutting Troy. Would you cut Troy Polamalu in order to sign Jason Worilds if need be? That may be what it comes down to.
     
  4. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    I'd lean towards no, because letting him and Clark go in the same offseason will be pretty tough to get over.

    I'm not sure why we kicked to can down the road with Woodley. His contract is starting to get to be impossible to continue.

    Another option is to somehow find the money to franchise tag Worlids for one year to find out if he is worth it the following year. At that point cutting Woodley wouldn't be as painful if we needed to do it.
     
  5. freakfontana

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    from what i know we are already over the cap , we need to cut /restructure someone to be back in .. then if we want to sign worilds i would cut /trade woodley eat the dead money and sign worilds with a fat sign bonus and low base salary in the first year
     
  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Depends how much he wants to be a Steeler, they aren't going to win any bidding wars.
     
  7. GB_Steel

    GB_Steel Well-Known Member

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    Right now I think we focus on building our defense around Cam Heyward, and doing all we can to be prepared to resign him. Unfortunately I think we bite the bullet on Worilds and he goes elsewhere.

    I couldn't bear to see us cut Polamalu, but it may be best for the team since he's become a liability beyond 15 yards off the LOS. Worilds is young, and Troy isn't, we may have to do it to ensure future success. I would feel sick for days though if it came to that. No matter what, Cam should be our focus, with Worilds a nicety.
     
  8. GB_Steel

    GB_Steel Well-Known Member

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    Trading him would be ideal if we can find someone willing to take him for what would amount to next to nothing, which I'd be fine with as long as we can unload his salary penalty-free.

    Woodley for a 2015 7th rounder, no cap hit, and a resigned Worilds? Oh heck yes.
     
  9. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Troy looks healthy this year, he is a little slower, but can still make plays. His gaffes in coverage and not being where he should is what frustrates me about him most this year.

    However some Steeler analysts are saying he is basically been a ILB as well as Safety this year with the new Big Nickel/Little Nickel package they are running. Maybe Troy is struggling to learn a whole new position along with everything else. Maybe Troy looks even better next year with a Larry Foote back or a stud ILB in the draft playing in front of him?

    Or hell, maybe he adds some muscle in the offseason and becomes a full time ILB???
     
  10. Coastal Steeler

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    I have a feeling and hope Jason Worilds does an Ike Taylor and says, "I'm going to stay a Steeler"
     
  11. bigsteelerfaninky

    bigsteelerfaninky Well-Known Member

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    Nope done think we can afford him
    its on to greener padtures for him
    btw i dont blame him hes gotta get paid
     
  12. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    I don't think we can really blame anyone for not giving Worilds a long term contract prior to the start of the season. He never really has showed much.

    One thing I will note, is that Worilds looks SO MUCH better at LOLB than he ever did ROLB. Why? He's going against RTs as opposed to LTs. I want to keep Worilds, but I would certainly not break the bank on him. We should have learned that lesson after the Woodley contract.
     
  13. GB_Steel

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    And that's the crux of it all for me. It's going to be a tough call to make if the day comes that he's cut. But eventually he'll be ineffective, and I think it's coming soon. It's not easy saying goodbye to a legend. Troy at $4 mil/year as a backup SS/ILB? I could be sold on that no prob if it means we can keep him around until he calls it quits. I could see him filling the same kind of specialist role that Bettis had his waning days in the league.
     
  14. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    Does Polamalu really seem like someone who is greedy? Will he take less to stay in Pittsburgh? Or is this his chance to get back out to the West Coast? Will be interesting.
     
  15. SteelerGlenn

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    Pretty sure cutting or trading Woodley is still about a 14 million cap hit.
     
  16. Rush2seven

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    If we let Clark go, could we convert Ike to safety (a Woodson like move) thereby allowing us to get another corner and not have to pay another safety (since we would already be paying Ike) thus making the Worlids signing possible. What about Jarvis to ILB, over Vince Williams?
     
  17. freakfontana

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    we will draft an ilb , ike has to take a pay cut regardless
     
  18. pjgruden

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    They've put themselves into the situation. At the time, I'm sure Woodley's contract made sense to the front office. Now, he simply costs too much for what they are getting out of him. I think they really need to make some hard decisions this upcoming season and cut some of this salary. Even if they have to suck for a year or two, they can't continue to keep extending these players. I will hate to see some of the vets go, but they have to do it.
    Also, if they can keep the darn OL healthy they'd spend a lot less money too. How much money gets wasted each year on the OL for those that can't play?

    As for Worilds, I'd like for them to resign him. I just don't see it as a possibility.
     
  19. freakfontana

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    i think that too
     
  20. DSteelerCT

    DSteelerCT Well-Known Member

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    Woodley is only a $14M cap if done before June 1. Worilds is only 25 years old...we need to make his re-signing a priority.
     
  21. freakfontana

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    what do you mean for " ONLY" ?
     
  22. DSteelerCT

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    If we cut him after June 1, it's not a $14M cap hit...think it will be $6M instead. Still a big number, but more workable.
     
  23. steelers5859

    steelers5859 Well-Known Member

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    :this!:
     
  24. freakfontana

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    yes but you have to carrie for two years , we will see
     
  25. thorn058

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    I'm sorry but are we all really worried about Worilds? Not to slam the man but he saw spot duty last season in which he showed flashes mainly from Woodley's side, this season he was to take over for Harrison and it was his job to lose and he lost it to a rookie, only to get it back part time and really wasn't lighting it up from that side either in his limited rotations then low and behold he is back on Woodley's side and has a few good games maybe even some monster ones but still from the side he wasn't picked to be on. Someone said he has a better time against right tackles versus left tackles, more like he has a better time in a dbl team with a TE and the RT looking at chipping in against the defensive end. Again not saying he stinks but he has shown higher level of play from one side, he is a 3-4 LB now yes he will get offers but anyone who throws money at him better have the right type of situation or it is a waste of money.

    I find it funny that we are having this discussion after his big games in replacement of the injured Woodley and yet people find Jarvis Jones lacking somewhat from the same side that Worilds struggled on after being on the team for three years. At this point I wonder what Jones' stats would be from Woodley's side or Timmons or Williams. I remember how poorly many thought Timmons played when he moved to OLB when Harrison was hurt. At this point I think Lebeau's system has become a bit predictable they almost always blitz the OLB's and the three DL with an occasional Safety/CB blitz or the crossfire blitz sprinkled in. I would like to see a lot more movement across the line down there. Line Worilds and Jones up on one side, shift the DL down, put Timmons just behind the DE on Woodley's side, run some exotic blitzes with guys lining up in different places all the time, get back to that "where is the pressure coming from" type of defense. Ok, off and a tangent there but anyway I don't think there is going to be a huge market for Worilds skill set unless he shows something in the last three games that says he can be a force from the left and the right.
     

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