Honestly who cares about Howard or Allar right now?

S.T.D · Sep 3, 2026 at 2:44 PM

Joel Buchsbaum said: ↑

I grow weary of playing whack a mole on your head, only to see you keep changing topics.

Mike Tomlin let Bruce Arians go after the 2011 season.Arians had been Pittsburgh’s offensive coordinator from 2007–2011. After that season his contract expired and the team did not offer him a new one. The Steelers initially described it as a retirement; Arians later said he was not given a contract and treated it as being let go. Tomlin publicly took responsibility. In March 2012 he said it was his decision and that he “thought that it was time for change.” Some contemporaneous reports suggested team president Art Rooney II may have been involved, but Tomlin stated the call was his. Arians was unhappy at the time and later said he felt betrayed. He quickly joined the Indianapolis Colts as offensive coordinator (and later served as interim head coach). He has since said he was ultimately thankful the Steelers moved on, because it opened the door to his later head-coaching success.

Bruce Arians was hired by Bill Cowher in 2004 as wide receivers coach. When Tomlin took over in 2007, he kept Arians and promoted him to offensive coordinator. Arians was not a Tomlin original hire. Dick LeBeau was first brought in by Cowher in 1992. He left, then returned in 2004 (still under Cowher) as defensive coordinator. Tomlin inherited him in 2007 and kept him through 2014. Tomlin was actually the only 2007 head-coach finalist who planned to retain LeBeau and the 3-4. Both were already established, successful coordinators when Tomlin arrived. They belong more to the Cowher era than to a Tomlin-built staff.That distinction matters for the “coaching tree” criticism. Tomlin’s own later coordinator hires (Todd Haley, Randy Fichtner, Matt Canada, Arthur Smith, Teryl Austin, etc.) produced no NFL head coaches of note. Arians is the main name people cite, but he was already a longtime NFL assistant before Tomlin ever coached him. LeBeau never became a successful head coach (his Bengals tenure was poor).So yes: Arians and LeBeau were good coaches Tomlin inherited, not products of a Tomlin-developed tree.

No charge amigo.

- JB
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Lot of words mean nothing.
Arians, said different.
You couldn't wack anything on me .
So again for the slow.
Arians said Tomlin tried keeping him, these were words right out of his mouth, but Rooney let him go, and hired Haley. So try again.
LoL you trying to wack anything.
You trying to wack me......

forgotten1 · Sep 3, 2026 at 2:34 PM

HeinzMustard said: ↑

From now and henceforth.... it's Drew Allah.
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as long as it's not cartoonish

forgotten1 · Sep 3, 2026 at 2:37 PM

S.T.D said: ↑

Lot of words mean nothing.
Arians, said different.
You couldn't wack anything on me .
So again for the slow.
Arians said Tomlin tried keeping him, these were words right out of his mouth, but Rooney let him go, and hired Haley. So try again.
LoL you trying to wack anything.
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Hanratty#5 · Sep 3, 2026 at 2:48 PM

HeinzMustard said: ↑

From now and henceforth.... it's Drew Allah.
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So if he throws a TD pass the crowds chants "Allah Akbar!"?

steelersrule6 · Sep 3, 2026 at 3:13 PM

Joel Buchsbaum said: ↑

I grow weary of playing whack a mole on your head, only to see you keep changing topics.

Mike Tomlin let Bruce Arians go after the 2011 season.Arians had been Pittsburgh’s offensive coordinator from 2007–2011. After that season his contract expired and the team did not offer him a new one. The Steelers initially described it as a retirement; Arians later said he was not given a contract and treated it as being let go. Tomlin publicly took responsibility. In March 2012 he said it was his decision and that he “thought that it was time for change.” Some contemporaneous reports suggested team president Art Rooney II may have been involved, but Tomlin stated the call was his. Arians was unhappy at the time and later said he felt betrayed. He quickly joined the Indianapolis Colts as offensive coordinator (and later served as interim head coach). He has since said he was ultimately thankful the Steelers moved on, because it opened the door to his later head-coaching success.

Bruce Arians was hired by Bill Cowher in 2004 as wide receivers coach. When Tomlin took over in 2007, he kept Arians and promoted him to offensive coordinator. Arians was not a Tomlin original hire. Dick LeBeau was first brought in by Cowher in 1992. He left, then returned in 2004 (still under Cowher) as defensive coordinator. Tomlin inherited him in 2007 and kept him through 2014. Tomlin was actually the only 2007 head-coach finalist who planned to retain LeBeau and the 3-4. Both were already established, successful coordinators when Tomlin arrived. They belong more to the Cowher era than to a Tomlin-built staff.That distinction matters for the “coaching tree” criticism. Tomlin’s own later coordinator hires (Todd Haley, Randy Fichtner, Matt Canada, Arthur Smith, Teryl Austin, etc.) produced no NFL head coaches of note. Arians is the main name people cite, but he was already a longtime NFL assistant before Tomlin ever coached him. LeBeau never became a successful head coach (his Bengals tenure was poor).So yes: Arians and LeBeau were good coaches Tomlin inherited, not products of a Tomlin-developed tree.

No charge amigo.

- JB
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Tomlin went back and told Arians he was trying to get him another contract, Art made that decision Arians was too stubborn and wouldn't change his offense to protect Ben better.

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