Drew Allar was in complete control.

For me?! I have him graded as a second round pick based off his 2025 tape. Biggest issue for me?! Lack of emotional control; too moody and uncomfortable.


Arch isn't like Peyton or Eli. He wears his emotions on his sleeves. In 2025, this proved to be worse for him. That said, he did pick it up at the end of the season; a major silver lining for him.

 

And Sayin an Ohio St qb a first rounder?
Adding
I don’t think Arch will come out of college after next season

 

Sorry @Steelpens65! Didn't see you had Trinidad on there. My mistake.


For me?! I have a Fifth Round Grade on him. He is way too uncomfortable inside the pocket, holds onto the ball too long, has inconsistent release times throwing the football and has very questionable pre snap processing ability. He is a phenomenal QB outside of structure and can make many WOW plays. The issue is there isn't enough good within the fundamentals to justify drafting a QB who's sole play style is revolved around being dynamic while forsaking the basics.



Quarterbacks in the NFL simply doesn't work that way. Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are exceptions; not rules.

 

It’s the keeping the head up
Instead of taking off and running
That I like about him
Which in turn presents the WOW plays

 

You beat me by a couple of seconds
Sucks getting old

 

Yet was a game away for playing for the national championship
But
Also understand big difference from playing qb in college to playing qb in NFL

 

Correct.


For me, Julian Sayin is a legitimate First Round QB. Beyond having a lightning fast release, great pre snap processing speed, excellent ball placement, great touch on his throes, rock solid footwork, rock solid fundamentals and rock solid pocket management skills, his greatest weapon is the deep ball. No other QB in College Football was more accurate than Julian Sayin; 25 of 40 (62.5%) on throws 20 yards or greater to his credit.


Dante Moore and CJ Carr also fit into this but these two have different superpowers in comparison. Dante has some of the best Pocket skills since Joe Burrow and CJ Carr has some of the fastest pre snap processing skills and release speed I have ever scouted.


Such traits sound uninteresting. However, baseline fundamental attributes to a position that is largely tied to the basics, fundamentals and principles matter a lot more in the NFL where the game is simply much harder and much faster. Those "boring" traits carry over.


Overall?! The traits I have outlined for Sayin, Carr and Moore matter a whole lot more than having a bazooka arm with a fast 40 time. Remember this; there is a massive different between athletes who play QB vs QBs who are naturally athletic. Of the two, the latter is historically the superior choice.

 

Nah man. It's incredible accuracy is proven just by looking at the single season pff rating of every Steeler starting QB since Ben retired:

Single-Season PFF Grades

• Russell Wilson (2024): 79.5 (11 starts)
• Mitch Trubisky (2022): 76.6 (5 starts)
• Kenny Pickett (2022): 75.5 (12 starts)
• Justin Fields (2024): 71.0 (6 starts)
• Kenny Pickett (2023): 70.6 (12 starts)
• Aaron Rodgers (2025): 68.7 (17 starts)
• Mason Rudolph (2023): 64.8 (4 starts, incl. playoffs)

The accuracy of that list is almost as pinpoint as a deep center Mitch Trubisky pass

 

A real list of whos who
Everyone a BU QB
Except for Arot( 90 yr old)
What in the world was the Steelers thinking?
Somehow they thought they could be qb whisperers

 

Hey, BPA is always the way. What ever it takes.

 

6-10.. 3-14.. mehh

I knew it was a bad season.

and don’t care what anyone thinks about what I call him.