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Howard or Rudolph?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Joel Buchsbaum, May 21, 2026.

  1. pczach

    pczach Well-Known Member

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    There is no way to know which quarterback is playing the best yet. We only hear whispers from the eyes of people who's opinions I don't fully trust.

    I find it hard to believe that Allar is playing better than Rudolph this early into it. It just doesn't make sense to me. I hope Allar is an absolute stud and develops and plays out of his mind and is the future of the franchise and becomes a superstar player. But until I actually see it, I'm not buying into the talk. I like the kid and wanted the team to draft him, but he did have some significant work to do to prepare.

    What I will say from just watching a few clips is that his mechanics look much better and his footwork is much quicker and much better than it ever was in college. He looked heavy footed at times, and watching what little video of his camp, his feet are moving quickly and he is resetting his feet and is ready to throw much quicker while being in better position to throw. That's great, but that with nobody trying to hit him. He is coming off a major knee injury, so there may be some fears to get over regarding defenders near his legs. That alone makes me want to see how he reacts when the action is real.

    I'm rooting for Allar and Howard to do very well. It only makes the team stronger if they have multiple quarterbacks that can play. Maybe Rudolph finds an offense that fits his skill set better? Who knows? I just want to be able to see it with my own eyes to get a better idea about where all these players are mentally with the game, and physically with the mechanics and the velocity on the ball.
     
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  2. TrueFan

    TrueFan Well-Known Member

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    Maybe not. Allar is reported to have bad mechanics which will take some time to correct, in all likelihood, he will be a good QB in a year or two. Howard has a lot of the tangibles and a tough mental track record.
     
  3. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Um, you replied to the quotes as fake news... (see #166).
     
  4. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Only one named interceptor on Day 1 of Steelers training camp (July 29, 2026): Payton Wilson.Detailed on-site reporting (Behind the Steel Curtain and others) describes a single interception: a check-down in 7-on-7s tipped by Cole Holcomb and picked off by Payton Wilson. One recap notes Jaylen Warren as the intended target on that play. No second player is named in the available practice reports as having intercepted Allar that day.


    No video of it either.

    Hmmm...
     
  5. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Talk to Chris Carter if you don't believe him.
     
  6. Steelvision

    Steelvision Well-Known Member

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    how do you know he will be a good Qb? Even if he has bad mechanics, if he is going to be good we should still some good decision making abilities early on, imo.
     
  7. TrueFan

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    Basically because he has a lot of the tangible qualities in a quarterback that you look for.
     
  8. jeh1856

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    Allar went in the third

    Howard went in the sixth

    32 teams/GMs/Head coaches disagree with you
     
  9. TrueFan

    TrueFan Well-Known Member

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    You provide a lot of useless information. Maybe you think you are too cool to be articulate? Maybe give up the witch hunt and try communicating?
     
  10. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Forgive me for interjecting but this has been jeh's way since the dinosaurs walked the earth. If you look up "dry sense of humor" in the dictionary, you'll see a picture of Jeh's dogs. My unsolicited advice to you would be to roll with it. Hell hath no fury like the wrath of jeh.
     
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  11. TrueFan

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    It was easy to see the sense of humor, or lack thereof, but the links to nowhere which he thinks are somehow gospel are nothing but useless.
     
  12. jeh1856

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    That’s nice
     
  13. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    He's an old retired curmudgeon. Some of his favorite parts of the day are messing with youngins on here.
     
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  14. TrueFan

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    When I was in the service I was a hard driving prick, kinda like him. A Master Sargent, who I will forever be indebted to, took me aside and said "son, if the whole world has to be wrong in order for you to be right, you should think about a new approach" :drinks:
     
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  15. jeh1856

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    I just have a low tolerance for trolls liars and posters who just post to get attention
     
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  16. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    I mean, to be fair, everyone posts for attention. It's social media.
     
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  17. mcam

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    I guess we will find out. Coaches say all kinds of things. He doesn't want to say he'll be cut regardless.

    I like Howard, and would like to keep him. The reality is it's going to be hard to drop another skilled roster spot that could actually have an impact his year.

    People hate on Mason, but the guy has experience playing against starters in this league with some success. He's pretty much a career backup at this point
     
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  18. Bubbahotep

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    Fittipaldo is a straight shooter. Here's his view;

    "I think Rudolph’s been by far the better quarterback so far at training camp than Will Howard," Farabaugh said. "He’s gone through his kind of businesslike, mature way. He’s just hit the guys he’s supposed to hit. He hasn’t put the ball in harm’s way. He’s thrown an accurate ball. It hasn’t been flashy. It’s been very workmanlike, but there’s not been a lot that makes you worried about it. Just looks like a backup quarterback doing what a backup quarterback should do, which is game managing."
     
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  19. TrueFan

    TrueFan Well-Known Member

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    we are
     
  20. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    More Fittipaldo;

    "Howard, on the other hand, looks like he’s out to prove something," Farabaugh said. "He’s had a few really nice throws with some touch up the seam, outside the numbers, but he has also thrown three interceptions. I will say this right now, the gap between Rudolph and Howard is bigger than the gap between Howard and Allar. There are six practices, and fairly simply put, you just don’t want that to be the case if you are Will Howard. But there’s still a lot of time, three preseason games.""
     
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  21. jeh1856

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    Have I mentioned shorts lately
     
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  22. Confluence

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    My prediction: If none of the qbs get injured, steelers are going to have 4 qbs on the roster. Start getting used to it







    (A Mason, Howard, Allar qb room next year looking more and more likely)
     
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  23. pczach

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    The two quotes you list above sound like a more realistic picture of what is happening.

    This isn't me banging on the two young quarterbacks. That's just the way football works. If a 7-year vet like Rudolph isn't playing significantly better than both guys getting their first pro playing time at the end of preseason, he probably shouldn't be on the team.

    Rudolph turned 31-years old in July. Will Howard will be 25 in September and Drew Allar just turned 22-years-old in March. He's just a baby with a lot of growth potential.

    I am hoping we see real growth by the two young quarterbacks. Clearly, Howard is under more pressure to perform right now. He is older with more experience than Allar, plus he is basically battling Rudolph for a roster spot unless McCarthy really does keep four QB's.

    Young and talented always trumps older and steady. I think the move should be to keep the players they believe will be the better finished products, not who is better this second.
     
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  24. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Rudolph=The Three Bears.... not too hot, not too cold, which is why I think he will start the season as QB2 regardless of the stories out of camp.
     
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  25. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Will Howard is behind both Mason Rudolph and Drew Allar at the moment and has a lot left to prove. With three preseason games coming up, Rudolph either needs to play poorly, or if he’s just average, Howard will have to clearly outplay him to climb the depth chart.

    Allar is a lock to make the team. He has made several down the field did you see that type of throws.

    I rather see McCarthy make up his mind after the 2nd pre-season game and give the majority of the 3rd game to Allar.
     

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