The lethal combination of Tomlin and Rooney

We all know that Tomlin retired, you can quit saying it.

 

It appears SiverBoob or one of the other previously condemned trolls has snuck back into the litter box

 

Hmm
We have never seen teams get beat in the playoff by teams they beat in the regular season before. LoL.
If this was true the Bills , and the Ravens would both be holding multiple SB trophies in the last 5 years. So what You said is hogwash

 

Hmm. Again not thinking.
Big difference between a team that doesn't have to deal with free agency, and has 10 HOF players, and a team that has to deal with free agency yearly, but hey don't let actual fact deter you

 

Most recently Bob Ondis

Same MO

 

Let me give you an analogy, and in case you don't know what that means Analogy: a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification:

If I had a net worth of 10 million dollars people might say I was a good money manager, I was smart with my money, etc. But if I inherited 20 million cash five years ago, that would put a very different light on it. Just like when you look at what Tomlin did, with what he had, it's very easy to conclude that he was a disaster for this organization. People who say Tomlin was a good coach are making that statement in a vacuum ..... the one between their ears.

 

Being tied with Noll for the most regular season wins in Steelers history, along with two Super Bowl appearances isn't a disaster .

 

Oh for God's sake! Noll inherited the worst team in the NFL Tomlin inherited one of the best teams in the NFL

Noll built the greatest team in the history of the league from Total garbage, Tomlin dismantled a great team and a great organization.

 

Tomlin inherited an 8-8

At least try to be a little honest

And don’t move the goal posts just tell the truth

 

Noll and Tomlin should never be compared

 

MARMADUKE RIDES!!!!!

 

To said that the steelers were a 8-8 caliber team after 2006 is like saying that the current chiefs are a 6-11 caliber team...Down year can happen in the NFL sometimes

 

An 8-8 team that suffered the ill effects of bike crash and appendectomy to it's QB after winning a Super Bowl the year prior.

Tomlin inherited a Super Bowl caliber, elite AFC team.

 

That’s nice

 

I quote facts

You babble to show your hatred for Tomlin

Shame on you

 

That's true but I think we all know it was a combination of Super Bowl hangover and Cowher's wife's health

 

Perhaps he was
Dick Burns

 

It's pretty weird.

On one hand, that SB win (2005) was the first by a 6th seed. So it's not like they were some juggernaut. They almost missed the payoffs.

On the other hand, they also had 11 wins. So it's not like the more recent low seeded teams we had going into the playoffs (clearly much more talented than the 4th seed we had last year).

I don't think we can really credit Cowher for drafting Ben. We got very lucky that he fell to us. And if we believe Dan, Bill wanted the OT more. Who knows...?

Either way, the combination of Colbert and Cowher (maybe still with some left overs from Tom D...not sure exactly when he left) built a good rest of the team. Then we lucked into Ben. Who got us 2 SBs (and another appearance).

Colbert and Tomlin also built some strong teams. Despite having a QB who (rightfully) took up a ton of cap space.

But we tended to lose because of significant turnovers in the playoffs.

I wonder what Ben's career would have looked like if he came in to the league after the rookie pay scale. We were so good when he was young despite having to pay him way closer to market value than good young QBs get paid now.

 

They were also 15-1 in 2004.In 2005,they were 11-5 and it would been likely better if Ben would not been out for 4 games.Maddox was just awful in his 2 starts by losing in overtime in those 2.The AFC were loaded in 2005,strong team like the chiefs and chargers did not make the playoffs because of brutal schedule and also in a strong conference

The biggest difference between 2004 vs 2005 for the steelers,it was they peak at the right time in 2005....2004 they peak in the middle of the season against the pats and eagles before Ben hit the rookie wall in the playoffs

 

Not being smart but I don’t know what Super Bowl hangover is

But most definitely his wife and children as he should

 

2005 was a very interesting year the Steelers were ranked in the top couple teams all season up through week 10 when Ben and a couple other key players got hurt and missed four games. Everybody made a big deal about the Steelers winning the Super Bowl from the 6th seed but it was pretty obvious why they dropped down to the 6th seed. When those players came back they went right back to being an elite team.

 

A QB so difficult to deal with the head coach decided to retire and the OL so fumed by his antics they let some free shots happen by forgetting to block.

 

Basically, for all of Cower's time and Tomlin's we ran the same strategy. It's the business model of the Steelers. Likely set by Art I, or at least Dan.

1. Always be competitive.
2. Make the playoffs as often as you can.
3. Hope to catch lightning in a bottle.

We caught that lightning in 2005. As you say, we peaked at just the right time. And got more good fortune than bad fortune in the playoffs. Although Jerome's fumble and the league making the wrong call on Troy's pick could have easily sent us home.

I don't think any of that takes away from what they did in 2005.

But it's not like the 2007 team was some juggernaut that we could just put on cruise control...maybe Switzer was like that? But it could be that I just don't follow the Cowboys enough to understand how he contributed to the team.

 

And Ben almost killing himself on a motorcycle.

But as stated above, it was a good to very good team among other good to very good teams in the AFC. It was not the juggernaut some make it out to be.

We won both of those SBs (and made a 3rd) mostly because of Ben and Troy and the other elite players we had.

Cowher and Tomlin did enough to enable their success and not stand in it's way. That's what coaches do. It's players that win and lose games. And in the NFL, that mostly means QBs. Because they are the most important part of any organization.