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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, May 18, 2026 at 12:45 PM.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    This makes no sense at all. Allar is not making it through waivers to get to the practice squad. Teams may have passed on spending a pick in the first two rounds on him, but they aren't going to pass on adding him for free.
     
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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    That pic is a fake
     
  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Allar is a third round pick if you put him on the practice squad eventually some team will claim him.
     
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  4. Brice

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    I just have to wonder if this is some kind of Running Back protest in the NFL. Are all RBs going to skip OTAs, because they think they are being underpaid in the NFL.

    It looks like everyone from the offense is there at practice, besides these 2 starting RBs. There has to be a reason that both Jaylen and Rico are skipping OTAs together.

    I know it is only a few days of practice, but hopefully Kaleb Johnson can take advantage of it. New Coaching Staff and a New Playbook maybe Kaleb can turn his NFL Career around from being inactive on game days.
     
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  5. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    They are going to use up a roster spot for a QB that is not ready to play this season?
     
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  6. freakfontana

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    Who cares of this season if you have to put rudolph is over anyway
     
  7. Iron Nickel

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    OTAs are shirts and shells so the only real important work is the QB and receiving weapons. I wouldn't read too much into the OL side of things, right now it's just learning the way they do calls but the OL won't really sort out until pads are on. That said it demonstrates what they think of Iheanachor that they want to give him a look this early, which does not surprise me given how he looked during Senior Bowl week. I do think he can start game one at RT if they need him to. Both rooks really should be capable of playing this year for that matter.

    Getting Bernard ready to go in the slot so he can have a strong camp is the top priority. He's going to be a key piece for the offense this year and my bet is he's up for it.

    Oh and re: the QB depth chart it's clear at this point that Howard is the choice for backup duties. So I'd imagine the job is his provided he doesn't cock it up, because I doubt Rudolph is capable of taking it from him. Him slotting at QB2 in OTAs is definitely a tell.
     
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  8. Formerscribe

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    Yes, they are. Teams do it all the time, whether it be because they don't think the guy is ready or because they have a quality starter ahead of him. Hell, that was the plan for Ben Roethlisberger in 2004. Then they lost backup Charlie Batch to the IR before the season started and Tommy Maddox went down in the opener, forcing them to play Roethlisberger as a rookie.

    Rodgers saw nothing but mop-up duty his first three seasons. Brett Favre attempted four passes as a rookie with the Falcons. Jordan Love was forced into the lineup for one start and parts of some other games as a rookie, but he wasn't expected to play at all.

    Carson Palmer was the No. 1 overall pick and didn't play at all as a rookie. Tom Brady and Drew Brees each only appeared in one game as rookies.
     
  9. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    1. Ben wasn't 42 years old.
    2. Dobbs wasn't a rookie the rookie was Mason.
    3. After our 42 year old Qb Rodgers we have nobody that has even played a preseason game in the NFL.
    4. Like I said it's almost never done by any HC
     
  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    So then take a chance at not only taking what you can get, but a Qb that knows nothing about the system we are running??
     
  11. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    :shrug:
     
  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. Because you play to win the games handed to you. Did you honestly at this time last year have Seattle vs NE in the SB. You don't know who is going, I don't know who's going, and one injury to any team can take that away from any team.
     
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  13. S.T.D

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    Maybe that's why Lamar Jackson is skipping OTAs on his team with a new HC, because he's a RUNNING QB. LoL
     
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  14. Brice

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    I am pretty sure that is what the plan is for most early round rookie QBs; to sit their 1st year. Even Big Ben was going to sit his entire first year before Maddox and Batch were both injured.

    Not many Rookie QBs hit the ground running as their team's QB #1.
     
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  15. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    it also doesn't mean howard wouldn't be that backup. if rodgers goes down i would rather we have rudolph helping him on the sidelines than allar at that point. much like batch did here. they see and know more. :cool:
     
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  16. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    if he was so good then 75 picks wouldn't have gone by before he was picked. why would you want to put a total rebuild on you 53 man roster and not pick him in the draft if you think he's that good? third round QB's can be had a dime a dozen. :cool:
     
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  17. thorn058

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    Kaleb was the consensus winner of OTA's last year and was declared by all involved to be the steal of the draft. Im not dogging on the guy but there is a reason he looked great against fellow rookies in last years OTA's and again this year where no one can hit you or really run into you. He needs actual games so he can get up to speed in the pro game.
     
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  18. Bubbahotep

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    Most were 1st round picks not 3rd round. They were viewed as eventual starters. I wouldn't put Allar in the same category. Probably closer to Rudolph than Roethlisberger. In fact, if a high quality QB is within reach in the next draft I expect the Steelers to draft him.
     
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  19. Hanratty#5

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    Mason Rudolph, Cooper Rush, Tyrod Taylor or Josh Dobbs it doesn't matter. They're all career backups who you aren't going to win with anyway.
     
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  20. S.T.D

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    Yeah it matters. We've seen all of them you named win a couple of games, and all of them have NFL experience. That's the whole Idea of a backup Qb. Not to win the whole season, but to win a couple games here, and there, and everyone you mentioned has. Now the real question is......
    Do you take a guy that is already under contract, and has been learning the system , or spin the wheel, hope can at least get one of them, pay another contract, and bring in someone that knows none of the signals, or the system??
     
  21. Formerscribe

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    Going into the 1974 draft, the Steelers believed John Stallworth was going to be great. Supposedly, Chuck Noll wanted to take him in the first round even though no other team was going to take him anywhere near that high. Others in the organization overruled Noll, allowing the Steelers to get Lynn Swann in the first round and Stallworth in the fourth.

    Everyone knew Allar was going to fall that far. He showed significant flaws in his game and missed a big chunk of his final season at Penn State with an injury. Just because the Steelers believe he can be something didn't mean they had to be stupid about it.

    Draft picks aren't sure thing. They are probability's. The lower the probability of success, the later the player gets drafted. Allar is far less likely to succeed than a first-round quarterback, but that doesn't mean there is no chance. It is amazing that you have so much faith in scrubs grabbed off the scrap heap, but suddenly Allar is trash because he fell to the third round. I'm not even very high on him, and I think that is a take that makes no sense.
     
  22. Formerscribe

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    You are leaving out part of the choice there.

    The choice is either lose a young quarterback with more upside, Howard or Allar, to keep Rudolph or keep the young guys and risk Rudolph not being there if something happens and they need another quarterback. If they lose Rodgers for any length of time, Rudolph isn't going to save them anyway, so who not hold on to the young guys?
     
  23. S.T.D

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    For the 500th time to win games. I'm imaging it or hasn't Mason won multiple games before, hasn't most experienced backups. Again that's what they are there for, the experience , the knowledge, and a few games here, and there.
    When was the last time you seen a team go into a season without a veteran backup, or at least a backup that had some playing time in at least preseason games??
     
  24. Formerscribe

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    If they really like Howard as much as I've seen in some reports, that is the only choice that makes sense. Allar is going to make the team. The small chance that Rudolph might win a game or two if Rodgers gets hurt isn't worth losing a quarterback who has a future with the team.

    My point was that you were leaving out that part of the choice, that keeping Rudolph likely means losing Howard.
     
  25. S.T.D

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    My point is they most likely aren't going into the season with a 42 year old Qb without a backup without any experience, be that Mason , or whomever.
    It's just not done too often, hell I can't remember it ever happening, but I'm sure it has.
     

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